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Nov 21 '06, 12:20 AM
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...with some meat, not the usual pan over that I see everywhere with all these other courses reviewed here. You can spend $497 or $1497 and still get the same frustrations. I've seen plenty of suggestions on wholesaling, but no meat and potatoes on strategies to build a buyer's list, negotiating or how to find these 'great' deals everyone talks about. I need cash, not a rental property with tenant and cash flow problems right now. I know some basics from reading, but haven't seen much more in details here or in searches at my public library. Any suggestions on getting the details of this niche investing strategy would be much appreciated, especially if it is an affordable resource for a change. Thanks. :shock:


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


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Nov 21 '06, 12:37 AM


I hesitate to recommend a course, because the hype always turns me off. I did hear Larry Goins speak not too long ago. He was selling his guru product:

Ultimate Buying & Selling Machine

I didn't buy it, but a lot of people at the meeting did. Anyway, he's definitely focused on wholesaling. You could search the web to see what other people think of his course. The price is around $700. I don't know exactly what you get in the course, but he did address your specific questions in his talk. He's the same guy who wrote some of the articles posted here at biggerpockets:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/articles/

Maybe some people here have it and will comment on it.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


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Nov 21 '06, 01:53 AM


thanks for the reply, i'll research his materials. thanks!


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


Ken Hicks

Boonies, Pennsylvania

Nov 21 '06, 02:08 AM
2 votes


I have Larrys' course. That is the only course I have. He talks a good game and I'm sure his program does work. The bottom line on any course or anything in that matter "You get what you put in" A friend of mine owns about $6,000 worth of courses from ron legrand, get the deed people, charelton sheets, and countless books. He has never purchased an investment property yet, and I don't see him purchasing anything in the future. I purchased the ultimate buying and selling course because a friend told me about it. Do your homework on any course before you buy. but remember these guys job is to sell sell sell. wish I could help more.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


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Nov 21 '06, 03:51 AM
2 votes


Another thought is to look to your local real estate investment club. Mine has lots of material available for members to check out. Mostly it has books, but there are also some courses and audio programs. Might be a good way to get a lot of different material without spending a lot of money.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


Wes Tuinstra

Nov 21 '06, 04:44 PM
3 votes


For an excellent course on wholesaling, why not read
the last 3 months of Ryan Webber's posts on this forum?

No...I'm serious!

Have you been reading what that man has been
freely contributing to the forum on this topic in the
last little while?

His posts are so good, so knowledable, so insightful
that I proposed creating an ebook out of them.

And with him, you can post a question to him right
here on these boards and he'll answer.

Don't spend good money until you honestly can say
you "get" what he is telling people who ask questions.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


Ryan Webber

Wholesaler from Amarillo, Texas

Nov 22 '06, 11:04 AM
9 votes


Wow, Wes. :D Thank you for your comments.

Your idea inspired me to go sifting through my posts and others on the basics of wholesaling.

Here's a handful of good posts on wholesaling, finding deals, crunching numbers, hard money loans, and a couple miscellaneous nuggets that I think can help point a new investor in the right direction.

(in radio voice) This course is brought to you by biggerpockets.com and is available for complete download for the very affordable price of $0.00. (end radio voice)
:rock:

NOTE FROM ADMIN: The links below may not work. Since upgrading our forums in early 2008, some of these links no longer exist in the same place. Sorry about any problems.

Wholesaling:
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18301&highlight=#18301
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18555&highlight=#18555
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=3810
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=16107&highlight=#16107
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5424
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5766
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5500
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5600
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5302
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=6842

Finding deals:
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=6212
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18254&highlight=#18254
http://www.biggerpockets.com/articles/good-deals-real-estate-da.html
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5619
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=16500#16500
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5521
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18227

Crunching Numbers:
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5707
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5960
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=17712&highlight=#17712
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5826
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18225&highlight=#18225

Hard Money Loans:
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5421
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5656
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5235
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=4324

Miscellaneous Nuggets:
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18228
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=18171&highlight=#18171
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?p=16127&highlight=#16127
http://forums.biggerpockets.com/viewtopic.php?t=5204


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13 by Administrator


Wes Tuinstra

Nov 22 '06, 05:48 PM
1 vote


Do you see what I mean, gang? 8)

Once a person has read and mastered what he says
in these posts, then they will be in a good position to

1) know if they still need a course,
2) be able to benefit from a course by understanding all the points
it makes because they will not be coming at the
subject as a newbie, and

3) know how much to pay for a course because they will be mentally comparing what they get here for free with "advice" that they
have to pay for.

I will also suggest, Ryan, that we (me, you, Josh Dorkin, AllCash, others) begin to think of starting a conference call night with you either answering questions, or giving a brief talk, or interviewing some of the others from the forum.

This would be a subscription service, but we would keep the cost low
and I think many, many would benefit.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


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Nov 24 '06, 10:18 PM


You guyls are so helpful, thanks so much. I have started reading Ryan's links, on the third one now, already had several questions answered and it just gets better and better. Thanks again for all your replies and I'll let you know when I am ready to do my first deal! Ryan, watch out, I might be bugging you alot now.......Happy Holidays....Timo


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


Jim Watkins

Real Estate Coach from Dallas, Texas

Nov 25 '06, 03:01 PM
2 votes


Originally posted by "mach":
The bottom line on any course or anything in that matter "You get what you put in" A friend of mine owns about $6,000 worth of courses from ron legrand, get the deed people, charelton sheets, and countless books. He has never purchased an investment property yet, and I don't see him purchasing anything in the future.

Let me quote my best friend, childhood chum and fellow real estate investor based in Minneapolis/St. Paul, who owns close to 400 properties.

[b]

If you swallow a pill to lose weight or read a book to get rich... Real Estate Investing WON'T work for you!
[b]
-Tom Balko, TJ2 Properties

Tom's quote is among the best and most accurate I have ever heard in the real estate industry.
It's a JOB! Is it that easy as the infomercials claim? NO
Is it hard? NO
Can anyone do it? NO
Can you do it? YES
How? Common sense and an age old technique called...TRYING!!!

-Jim Watkins


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


Ryan Webber

Wholesaler from Amarillo, Texas

Nov 26 '06, 02:15 AM
4 votes


lol, now that one I like, Jim.

Tom is dead on with that quote. It is so true. Most people's problem is that they are not willing to commit for the long haul and work at it.

It can take years of diligent effort to build a business of any significance, and frankly most people are not willing to put in the required time, money, commitment, and dedication to EARN a successful business.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:13


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Dec 20 '06, 01:31 PM


Wesley,

I'm ready to sign the subscription service and the cost low. Where do I sign?

Thanks...


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:16


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Jan 10 '07, 02:23 AM


Hi Ryan,

I was hoping that I could shoot you an email regarding a few things, but did not see it available. Mine should be available on my profile. If you get this I would appreciate a shout.

Originally posted by "Ryan Webber":
lol, now that one I like, Jim.

Tom is dead on with that quote. It is so true. Most people's problem is that they are not willing to commit for the long haul and work at it.

It can take years of diligent effort to build a business of any significance, and frankly most people are not willing to put in the required time, money, commitment, and dedication to EARN a successful business.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:18


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Jan 10 '07, 11:50 PM


I'm a new investor , and I have a ton of questions


Edited Jun 26 2010, 03:18


Davin Wright

Real Estate Investor from alexandria, Virginia

Aug 25 '08, 01:41 AM


Ryan can you make the posts so that i can go straight to them?


Edited Jun 26 2010, 05:45


Tyra General

Real Estate Investor from Maryland

Sep 01 '08, 01:27 AM


Ryan, thanks for compiling all your posts! I'm sure that I along with many others will benefit from them!!!!

God Bless,

Tyra


Edited Jun 26 2010, 05:48


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Real Estate Investor from

Sep 30 '08, 01:41 AM
1 vote


Yes, thanks Ryan for all the posts - I'm going to add them to my reading list. BTW, do you have anything on building your buyers' list? That seems to be the first step but not talked about nearly enough.

I also bought the Ultimate Buying and Selling Machine very recently and am just starting to get into. I'm hoping more people can give me an idea of how it worked for them. I was also approached by the company about the mentoring program and would love to hear if anyone has done that.

I know you don't get anything out of a course that you don't put into it and I understand the idea put forth by the quote "If you swallow a pill to lose weight or read a book to get rich... Real Estate Investing WON'T work for you!" but I know me and I have to start by learning from a book or something or else I don't know where to start.

I spent a year learning, reading, attending club meetings and such before I bought my first property. When I bought that property, the people I worked with were often impressed with my knowledge for such a newbie.

That's what I'm going to do with wholesaling - learning from 2 courses (also the Wholesaling for Cash by Judson and Lynn Voss from Get Real) for a while and then jumping in. I'm building my buyers' list first so need to learn some good ideas in that area.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 06:02


Eric Medemar

Real Estate Coach from Grand Rapids, Michigan

Oct 06 '08, 02:35 AM


I have picked up both steve cooks and venas courses on ebay and both seemed to be good material.

I have found it really hard to go wrong buying anything. The opportunity cost for doing nothing or making one mistake is typically far greater than any course could cost.


Edited Jun 26 2010, 06:04


Steve Babiak

Real Estate Investor from Audubon, Pennsylvania

Jul 15 '10, 04:49 AM


This one should probably be a sticky thread under wholesaling IMO ...



Steve Babiak, Redeeming Properties, LLC
Telephone: 6109082183
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