Bought with my Self Directed IRA - how do I pull the equity out to buy more?

Bought with my Self Directed IRA - how do I pull the equity out to buy more?

Paula ReavlinPro Member
Realtor · Member since 2023 · 19 posts · 14 votes

Hi - I was wondering how one pulls equity from a property purchased with a Self DIrected IRA - It's in a LLC. I paid all cash for the property. I would love to hear from you all. Thanks!

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Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
2y

Paula,

Unfortunately, Jason is incorrect; The "Delayed Financing" loan will not work with a self-directed IRA. Per IRS rules, the account owner (you) may not guarantee the loan for the IRA-owned property, so the loan must be non-recourse. There are only a handful of lenders who offer such financing; I assembled the list here:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/2810/50272-list-o...

I hope this helps!

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  • Jason WrayPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Paula,

    You can take out the cash through a "Delayed Financing" loan that offer 80% cash out with no wait.  When you pay 'All cash" you get the benefit of being able to avoid the typical (6 month) title seasoning wait to pull out cash.

    There are a couple of options under this program but very simple for the most part. If you have any questions feel free to reach out always happy to talk REI and help.

  • Paula ReavlinPro Member
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    Realtor · Member since 2023 · 19 posts · 14 votes
    2y

    Thank you Jason. I never heard of this type of loan. So, these loans are ok to use on a property bought with a Self Directed IRA? I ask because I thought the loan had to be non-recourse -

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    2y

    Paula,

    Unfortunately, Jason is incorrect; The "Delayed Financing" loan will not work with a self-directed IRA. Per IRS rules, the account owner (you) may not guarantee the loan for the IRA-owned property, so the loan must be non-recourse. There are only a handful of lenders who offer such financing; I assembled the list here:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/2810/50272-list-o...

    I hope this helps!

  • Nate HerndonPro Member
    Lender · Springfield, MO · Member since 2023 · 277 posts · 195 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Paula Reavlin:

    Thank you Jason. I never heard of this type of loan. So, these loans are ok to use on a property bought with a Self Directed IRA? I ask because I thought the loan had to be non-recourse -

    Hi Paula, I do have a DSCR lender who can assist with a limited recourse loan that will close in the name of a self-directed IRA. I have been able to do this for both purchases and cash-out refinances on multiple deals for clients of mine. I would be happy to assist and answer further questions if you have any.

    Typically your max loan-to-value for a cash-out refinance will be 75-80% LTV, but this specialized program will limit you to 70% LTV.

    I have had the "limited recourse" language vetted by attorneys representing our clients. It passed muster upon close inspection from their entity formation team. As @Dmitriy Fomichenko mentioned, you cannot personally guaranty the loan and the limited recourse aspect navigates that requirement.

  • Paula ReavlinPro Member
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    Realtor · Member since 2023 · 19 posts · 14 votes
    2y

    Thanks Dmitriy - i was afraid of that. Seems like these loans are very expensive. I will look at the link you sent me. Thanks again. 

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    2y

    I would not say they are "very expensive". There are some reasonably priced lenders on that list. Maybe more expensive than conventional financing but that is comparing apples and oranges. Using leverage is still better than paying 100% cash, you get to use OPM so your ROI will increase, it's a win for you.

  • Jason WrayPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Dmitriy Fomichenko:

    Paula,

    Unfortunately, Jason is incorrect; The "Delayed Financing" loan will not work with a self-directed IRA. Per IRS rules, the account owner (you) may not guarantee the loan for the IRA-owned property, so the loan must be non-recourse. There are only a handful of lenders who offer such financing; I assembled the list here:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/2810/50272-list-o...

    I hope this helps!

    I wanted to circle back on this because to point out I was wrong is not actually accurate. Delayed financing is a term used under Non/QM and also Private or FDIC Bank Portfolio programs. When I referred to "Delayed financing" it was associated with (Not having a mortgage) which means both of the above carry (No recourse) or do not require a personal guarantee.

    There are more banks and lenders that offer non recourse then the ones on that list that offer financing in the US and globally. There are also DSCR lenders that do not require a personal guarantee and again use the term delayed financing as their "program" under their Matrix/guide lines. Some of them are state specific and a few smaller that deal with more of the broker channels.

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