SFD landlord looks like a bad deal: what am I missing?

SFD landlord looks like a bad deal: what am I missing?

Dallas, TX · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 2 votes

I have come into a modest inheritance and I am considering how to invest the money.  These funds came primarily from the sale of my parent's house. Prior to the sale my brother and I considered renting as joint tenants, but we decided we might not be a good fit for owning property together.  As I consider investing the cash proceeds now, I am looking at the purchase of a rent house, but as I look at the numbers it does not seem like a very good deal at all.  Since many here swear by SFD landlording, I invite a critique of my analysis.

My numbers are based upon 2 assumptions I have picked up on here and elsewhere: (i) typical monthly rent should be from 1% to 2% of purchase price, and (ii) assume that repairs and insurance is about 50% of rent receipts.  Also an assumption is that the appreciate of the house value is not going to be real significant, which is I think a reasonable assumption in our post-housing bust world. I am looking at purely cash flow.

Let's say I have $100K to invest. If I do really well with my house buy and get 1.5%of  purchase price in rents, I will get $1500 a month in rent. With the "50% rule" I net $750 a month for an annual return of  9% annual return.  Sounds nice.  Certainly, however, if I compared that return with stock market returns via a dividend oriented ETF or quality mutual fund over the last few years, the house doesn't seem so great.  But OK, the stock market looks like it is going to suck for the foreseeable future.  Yet even in this environment I don't think a 4% return through stock and bond investing is unreasonable.

So in my example, buying and renting a house gives me a 5% better return, or $5K a year. Not bad.

BUT, we have all heard the negatives: tenants trashing the property, and periods where the property is unrented, it just does not seem the extra 5% rent is a good deal.  Please, oh wise ones, tell me what I am missing!

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  • Ormond Beach , FL · Member since 2015 · 345 posts · 223 votes
    10y

    Its not for everyone, but I know it gives me monthly income, provides tax benefits, capital appreciation. Will the market write you a monthly check? Will a house suddenly drop 40% unannounced (if bought correctly)? You have to decide. I'm retired and I'm leaving the market for the young and foolish.....it is just too much out of my controlb as anymore.

  • Rental Property Investor · Gambrills, MD · Member since 2014 · 372 posts · 88 votes
    10y
    What if you put $50k down on each of two houses and finance the other $50k? How do your returns look then? How about if you put $33k down on each of three and finance the balances? Now, don't forget that while your monthly cash flow will be hit by the mortgage costs, when you are done you'll own two/three houses that you paid only the down payment toward.
  • Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2014 · 128 posts · 65 votes
    10y

    1. 1% rent is all that can currently be expected in may parts of the country because of the rise in RE prices. Not sure about Texas.

    2. "Most" investor use leverage. ( as least amount down as possible, finance the rest at 30 years and manage expenses frugally.) $100,000 can finance $400,000 (including closing costs)

    3. In MY opinion, now is not the best time for an inexperienced person to get into RE with cash. Many experienced investors can still make money (leveraged) and continue but you have many lessons in front of you and most lessons cost money.   

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    10y

    Thanks to all 3 of you for your responses. It seem 2 (Stephen and Robert) think leverage is needed to make real money as a landlord. Definitely not interested in leverage, any more than I would take out a loan to invest money in the stock market.

    Would be curious about your experiences Stephen, Robert and Eugene: has the 50% rule turned out to be accurate in your investments? Would all agree with Robert that 1% rents in this environment is the best one can do?  Thanks again.

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