Fully rented vs fully vacant? Which do you prefer to purchase?

Fully rented vs fully vacant? Which do you prefer to purchase?

Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2013 · 146 posts · 24 votes
I am looking at a multi family property that is fully vacant while the owner tries to fix it up. Which do you prefer when buying a fixer upper: fully occupied or fully vacant? Maybe a mixture? My thought process is that this allows me to make any and all repairs required before moving in renters that I can screen instead of being stuck with potential bad tenants and have to repair in spurts. Your thoughts?
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Realtor · Sequim WA & Port Angeles, WA · Member since 2016 · 164 posts · 78 votes
10y

I vote for Vacant. You can make sure you screen the tenants and that all lease documents are current & in place. You will also have your move in photos and inspection which many times you don't get when you purchase occupied units. This makes doing the disposition of security deposit rather difficult at move out.

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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    10y

    If I was buying a MFH, I'd prefer a mixture unless you were talking an entire rehab of all units. I would not want habitable units sitting vacant because I was rehabbing other units. 

    That said, I don't like inheriting tenants, so I only buy empty properties. 

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  • Investor · Bentonville, AR · Member since 2014 · 759 posts · 379 votes
    10y

    @Joshua Gordon I prefer vacant so I can update and do CapEx up front instead of going back over and over. I just purchased a 12 unit that had 9 units empty that we are rehabbing. Obviously not making me any money yet, but i will know that 9/12 are pretty much brand new in terms of the big $ items.

  • Michael BarbariPro Member
    Banker · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2014 · 396 posts · 107 votes
    10y

    @Joshua Gordon I prefer vacant as well. You can rehab what you need and screen your own tenants. You never know what you might inherit.

  • Realtor · Sequim WA & Port Angeles, WA · Member since 2016 · 164 posts · 78 votes
    10y

    I vote for Vacant. You can make sure you screen the tenants and that all lease documents are current & in place. You will also have your move in photos and inspection which many times you don't get when you purchase occupied units. This makes doing the disposition of security deposit rather difficult at move out.

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    As a manager, I'd prefer vacant.  You can vet your own tenant, and you'll have a house full of tenants who think your unit is rented at a fair price.  Way easier than trying to raise rents on old tenants, or dealing with old tenants who preferred how Joe did things.

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    10y

    Buying a fixer -  defiantly vacant.

    With a fixer the place would be filled with any applicant having a heart beat and you would end up with a tenant nightmare.

  • Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2013 · 146 posts · 24 votes
    10y

    of course if short on money, having a tenant already would be very helpful.  I guess it depends on your financial situation

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