What should be avoided when buying you first rental property ?

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Joe VilleneuvePro Member
Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
6y

Losing money.

Rationalizing a bad deal, into a good one, and losing money.

Staying with a bad deal that's losing money, thinking it will change...it won't.

...Did I mention losing money?

Getting emotionally tied to your first deal, that's losing money?

Thinking you can fix a deal that's losing money, by throwing more money at it...and losing that money too.

Thinking if you did a larger down payment, to counter negative cash flow by getting a lower mortgage payment, was a good idea since you would be now getting positive CF.  Not realizing that by doing this, all you've done is paid all your negative CF upfront...and you're still losing money...just faster.

There's one more thing...right on the tip of my tongue...let me see.  Ih right...

Don't lose money.  If you find yourself in that situation, don't spend your way out...you can't.  Bail out, and move forward.

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  • Investor · Topeka, KS · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    1.  Avoid over paying.

    2. You are likely to make the most mistakes on your first property so make the mistakes small ones but not purchasing too much property straight out of the gate.

    3. Don't buy for appreciation, buy for cash flow.

    4. Make sure your property will actually cash flow. Gross rent - 30% (vacancy, maint, and capex) - PITI (Principal, Interest, taxes, and insurance) = true cash flow.

    5.  Do not take any money out of the business for the first 5 years.

  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y

    @Erik Lee make sure you know how to underwrite and don't buy a property that does not make money. Don't believe what you are told. Learn how to verify things for yourself.

  • Joseph CacciapagliaBusiness Member
    Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    The number 1 mistake I see new investors make is not getting started. For every 1 person I know that had a really tough first deal, I probably know 20+ people that have talked about investing for years, but never took the plunge. No matter how much research you do, you will make mistakes. Build a strong team, buy something smaller than you can safely afford, and look at each bump in the road as a learning experience. Perfection is the enemy of progress and profit.

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  • Joe VilleneuvePro Member
    Plymouth, MI · Member since 2013 · 13k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    6y

    Losing money.

    Rationalizing a bad deal, into a good one, and losing money.

    Staying with a bad deal that's losing money, thinking it will change...it won't.

    ...Did I mention losing money?

    Getting emotionally tied to your first deal, that's losing money?

    Thinking you can fix a deal that's losing money, by throwing more money at it...and losing that money too.

    Thinking if you did a larger down payment, to counter negative cash flow by getting a lower mortgage payment, was a good idea since you would be now getting positive CF.  Not realizing that by doing this, all you've done is paid all your negative CF upfront...and you're still losing money...just faster.

    There's one more thing...right on the tip of my tongue...let me see.  Ih right...

    Don't lose money.  If you find yourself in that situation, don't spend your way out...you can't.  Bail out, and move forward.

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    Not learning the landlord-tenant laws where the property is.

  • Newport, RI · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Thank you everyone for responding. You've all been a big help !!!!

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    6y

    @Erik Lee  Look at the numbers, be realistic about what you can and can't do, don't get in over your head and make sure you get it for a good price.  When buying, get copies of the leases, ensure the info is correct, get the deposits and prorated rent at closing.

  • Insurance Agent · Norwalk, CT · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Erik, Here are some things to lookout for from an Insurance perspective: 1.Any in-ground tanks (active or inactive) 2.Any Knob & Tube or Aluminum Wiring 3.If built before 1978, does the building have Lead Safe certifications 4.Any wood stoves or secondary heating units. If so, were permits pulled & were they installed by a professional 5.Are any of the homes rented to students 6.Is there a flat roof 7.are there asbestos shingles 8. If you are inheriting tenants, do any of them have pets. If dogs, what breed Not all of the above will cause you not to get insurance but several (knob & tube/aluminium wiring, certain breeds of dogs, inground tanks) will severely limit which companies will quote it). Because you are in RI you also need to be aware of the distance to the coast. Some companies have restrictions within a certain distance from the coast. Good luck with the process.
  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    galvanized plumbing supply lines.
  • Rental Property Investor · Helena, MT · Member since 2017 · 282 posts · 117 votes
    6y
    I would say don't avoid a house that has smoke smell, mold, lead paint, other scary issues. They're all able to be solved. Don't get too emotional, buy something that makes money.
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