Folks which flooring is most economical and best for rental units and in following area? I had a bad experience with vinyl click flooring as after a year or 2 joints cracks and gaps appears...
I'll likely have to replace the flooring in one of my rentals when my current tenants move out. I'm leaning toward the laminate flooring that looks like hardwood. It looks great at a much cheaper price. It's also more waterproof so you can put it all over the house, including the kitchen and bathrooms.
I have this in another house, installed 5 or 6 years ago.
I did notice some of the cheaper vinyl flooring friends have used is separating etc after a couple of years. We had a nightmare on a glue down vinyl application (partner decision) so never again on that thin stuff. But some of the >$3 sq ft vinyl-clickit we've used over the last 5 years has been great. In fact in our Lakehouse 1500 sq ft of it has survived 5 years of summers & cold winter shutdowns without any expansion/contraction issues.
My BIL installed some >$4 sq ft vinyl-clickit over an old tile floored kitchen without any sub-padding. I expected to see the old 1/4 inch tile grout line indentations but nothing yet.
Luxury vinyl plank. Looks great, easy to clean, won't retain odors, holds up to ordinary use, and can handle spills. I use it everywhere but the bedroom, when possible.
Recently I installed luxury vinyl plank flooring for the first time. It's more expensive than most laminates but I think it's worth the price difference because it's waterproof. As far as installation, it's been an easy-click floating flooring job. And if I come across a damaged area in the future, I think is not that hard to tackle. Just removing some sections of baseboard and "un-click" all necessary planks until I get to the damaged section. Then, replace, reassemble and finish installing again the baseboard section. Well, depending on the exact location of the damage the fix may be quicker or not.
In the past I installed a nice and thick bamboo which looks and feels better than the vinyl to me. But for a rental I see this LVP as a great choice.
I'll never use a laminate floor in a rental again, it just doesn't hold up to kids and pets in my experience.
I've used the EVP from Lumber Liquidators in my last two rentals and have been very pleased with it. Doesn't dent like the cheaper LVP I got from Lowe's and hasn't separated, plus it has padding attached and has a more wood-like "feel" with the solid core they use. Spills won't hurt it and it's easy to clean. My newest tenants commented on it as soon as they first walked in the house. My crappy picture doesn't do it justice but it looks really nice in person:
LVP. Holds up to just about anything, including water. Make sure you follow the instructions on installation. Depending on how thick it is will depend on how long your runs can be before you need a transition strip. Make sure you leave a gap 1/8" between the floor and then wall. It's a floating floor and if it can't move it will buckle and gap.
I’m curious if all the people that responded LVP would still use it for a flip property? Is it easy to notice the hollow feel of a floating floor? I haven’t used this product before but it definitely seems appealing.
Well, I think you need to address the installation or prep since I've used the linoleum plank for 10 years and it looks great and holds up.
It costs more than carpet/sheet lino, but doesn't wear. In addition in places like kitchens/baths you can put down a moisture barrier to keep water from the subfloor.
On the engineered wood, haven't used it for a while, but my main complaints:
1) Spill water on it like in a kitchen, it gets soaked up by the center layer and rots out.
2) It used to be softer. After a year of rocks on shoes walking on it, it looked like someone was wearing golf cleats all day long.
They may have made it better, but still like the plank lino, especially since it looks like wood (instead of a decal), the patterns easy to match, and while your floor needs to be as good as possible for install, it conforms to minor stuff and allows some leeway.
"I’m curious if all the people that responded LVP would still use it for a flip property? Is it easy to notice the hollow feel of a floating floor? I haven’t used this product before but it definitely seems appealing."
Get the moisture barrier/underlay. I know it's more money, but fixes a lot of your complaints and adds to the marketability.
All things being equal I prefer classic laminate at least 8mm thick. The newer stuff claims a 24 hr spill resistance. In kitchens I've been using Tranquility 5mm click vinyl planks from Lumber LIquidators, it's about $2/ft on sale and pretty good. I used it in a long stairwell hallway and got separations, but it was definitely longer than the reccoemnded run length. I also find that vinyl easier to cut but much harder to lay than classic laminate. Way more wrestling with it to get each piece in, it doesn't slide in the joints like laminate, tapping is much harder, and no good install can avoid tapping.
All things being equal I prefer classic laminate at least 8mm thick. The newer stuff claims a 24 hr spill resistance. In kitchens I've been using Tranquility 5mm click vinyl planks from Lumber LIquidators, it's about $2/ft on sale and pretty good. I used it in a long stairwell hallway and got separations, but it was definitely longer than the reccoemnded run length. I also find that vinyl easier to cut but much harder to lay than classic laminate. Way more wrestling with it to get each piece in, it doesn't slide in the joints like laminate, tapping is much harder, and no good install can avoid tapping.
So for rental units would you recommend using click vinyl planks or 12mm laminate? I used 4mm luxury vinyl planks on my rental units for last 2 years and i am noticing that clicks have started to break now...
All things being equal I prefer classic laminate at least 8mm thick. The newer stuff claims a 24 hr spill resistance. In kitchens I've been using Tranquility 5mm click vinyl planks from Lumber LIquidators, it's about $2/ft on sale and pretty good. I used it in a long stairwell hallway and got separations, but it was definitely longer than the reccoemnded run length. I also find that vinyl easier to cut but much harder to lay than classic laminate. Way more wrestling with it to get each piece in, it doesn't slide in the joints like laminate, tapping is much harder, and no good install can avoid tapping.
So for rental units would you recommend using click vinyl planks or 12mm laminate? I used 4mm luxury vinyl planks on my rental units for last 2 years and i am noticing that clicks have started to break now...
I don't have any experience yet with the new water-resistant laminate, but that would be the direction I would go in the next time I'm laying flooring. I'm turning over unit I put down 10 mm in 5 years ago and it still looks absolutely terrific. The 5mm vinyl in the kitchen I put down a few years before that looks pretty good, but some of the seams are starting to do that little curl up thing.
I use tiles for all my flooring, living room, kitchen, bath and all bedrooms. Laminate doesn't last too long, its easily chipped and damaged from water. Sometimes, the AC water can ruins the laminate flooring. Tiles are more expensive, but hopefully I won't need to replace the tiles for the next 10 years.