Philadelphia CMX-3 question

Philadelphia CMX-3 question

Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 0 votes

Hello, I'm looking to purchase a CMX-3 property currently as a single family. The current owner never bothered to get a use permit/variance for single family use. It's been rented out for years without an issue.

But I believe there was a recent change to Philly zone rules for CMX-3 in that, single family use is no longer permitted. 

Is the property a risk to purchase now, or there's some way to still get the use permit for Single Family?

Any feedback on the matter is appreciated!

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Contractor · Chadds Ford, PA · Member since 2015 · 567 posts · 460 votes
4y

@Owen Lee single family use is listed as "expressly prohibited" in CMX-3. Surprising that you would want to keep a CMX-3 as single family though. With that zoning you have a lot of flexibility on what do do with it, and the highest and best use is likely not a single family dwelling. Unless the house is currently gorgeous, if it is in a decent area, you might be better making a small apartment building or mixed use. If cost is a factor, there are definitely ways to make it work. 

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  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 618 posts · 430 votes
    4y

    Hi Owen,

    I’m not sure how new the law is but I don’t believe you are legally allowed to use it as a single family rental. A 2-family is legal if

    [7] Two-family household living is permitted in the CMX-3 district provided at least 50% of the ground floor frontage contains a non-
    residential use, or the lot area is less than 1,440 sq. ft.

    https://www.phila.gov/media/20...

  • Contractor · Chadds Ford, PA · Member since 2015 · 567 posts · 460 votes
    4y

    @Owen Lee single family use is listed as "expressly prohibited" in CMX-3. Surprising that you would want to keep a CMX-3 as single family though. With that zoning you have a lot of flexibility on what do do with it, and the highest and best use is likely not a single family dwelling. Unless the house is currently gorgeous, if it is in a decent area, you might be better making a small apartment building or mixed use. If cost is a factor, there are definitely ways to make it work. 

  • Kevin PaulkPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2016 · 219 posts · 174 votes
    4y

    @Owen Lee Hey Owen! Just curious did you purchase that CMX3 property ?

  • Real Estate Investor · Lansdowne, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 656 votes
    4y

    Greetings,

    may have something along the CMX2 zone wise in Philly coming shortly. Let me know if you're interested in doing business to benefit us both via inboxing me.  

  • Kevin PaulkPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2016 · 219 posts · 174 votes
    4y

    @Mary B. I'm interested 

  • Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Thank you all for the responses.  I did not end up purchasing the property.  

  • Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Rich O'Neill:

    @Owen Lee single family use is listed as "expressly prohibited" in CMX-3. Surprising that you would want to keep a CMX-3 as single family though. With that zoning you have a lot of flexibility on what do do with it, and the highest and best use is likely not a single family dwelling. Unless the house is currently gorgeous, if it is in a decent area, you might be better making a small apartment building or mixed use. If cost is a factor, there are definitely ways to make it work. 


     Good point. The lot was too small for anything more than a single family, and in the end it did not seem to be worth the hassle. 

    The owner had just recently renovated the house and was firm on pricing.   

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