Avoid LeasingToBuy by John Jackson

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Avoid LeasingToBuy by John Jackson

Alexander Cameron
Bryan, TX · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 3 votes

I bought John's online course, LeasingToBuy on May 31st. I thought that the course materials were very sloppily prepared, with little detail given on how to do transactions. The contracts were not editable online, and I couldn't access the webinar recordings. So, I waited until the course materials would arrive in the mail. I waited the full 10 business days with no package. I then disputed the charge with my credit card company and the SAME DAY I receive a notification that the package was being sent! Well, imagine that! I received said package the next day and promptly sent it back UNOPENED. I emailed John Jackson several times, documenting my steps, with no reply at all. Now, I find that I am REBILLED from John Jackson, without the course materials!! He even has a money back guarantee!! He doesn't have the common courtesy to respond, and, according to my credit card company, HAS TO RESPOND TO MY DISPUTE! He has not attempted to contact me at all. I am now reviewing options on getting that refund. AVOID JOHN JACKSON'S COURSE!!

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Greg H.Pro Member
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Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Susan May:

It is a MUST, if a Texas investor intends to do Lease Options in Texas. By purchasing John Jackson's training, which includes the necessary Texas paperwork, as well as his two day event, the investor has what is needed. Lease Options in Texas are different from other states. He also teaches a "niche" technique, using Lease Options, which is great for a investor that is new to the business.

 You for the second time say it is a MUST with no details. We all no lease options of more than 180 days in Texas are so stringent that it is rarely feasible. So , exactly what makes his training a must and what is the total cost?

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  • Rene Calacuayo
    Longview, TX · Member since 2018 · 24 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    Dang, i was really looking forward to buying his course. Im a newbie trying to learn how to assign L.O.s with option to purchase. and so ive heard hes the go to guy.

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    • Melodee Lucido
      Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
      9mo
      Quote from @Rene Calacuayo:

      Dang, i was really looking forward to buying his course. Im a newbie trying to learn how to assign L.O.s with option to purchase. and so ive heard hes the go to guy.

      He is most definitely NOT the go to guy. I worked with him for a year. I saw all the behind the scenes. I would call him more the go to disaster guy. Ugh
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  • Susan May
    Investor · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    I just attended John Jackson's two day event. His course and event is a MUST if you are a Texas investor, or plan to be a Texas investor. Highly recommend buying the material, and attending his event.

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  • Greg H.Pro Member
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    Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Susan May:

    I just attended John Jackson's two day event. His course and event is a MUST if you are a Texas investor, or plan to be a Texas investor. Highly recommend buying the material, and attending his event.

     What makes the event and materials a must ?

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  • Susan May
    Investor · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    It is a MUST, if a Texas investor intends to do Lease Options in Texas. By purchasing John Jackson's training, which includes the necessary Texas paperwork, as well as his two day event, the investor has what is needed. Lease Options in Texas are different from other states. He also teaches a "niche" technique, using Lease Options, which is great for a investor that is new to the business.

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  • Greg H.Pro Member
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    Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Susan May:

    It is a MUST, if a Texas investor intends to do Lease Options in Texas. By purchasing John Jackson's training, which includes the necessary Texas paperwork, as well as his two day event, the investor has what is needed. Lease Options in Texas are different from other states. He also teaches a "niche" technique, using Lease Options, which is great for a investor that is new to the business.

     You for the second time say it is a MUST with no details. We all no lease options of more than 180 days in Texas are so stringent that it is rarely feasible. So , exactly what makes his training a must and what is the total cost?

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  • Melodee Lucido
    Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
    7y

    I advise you to definitely be careful when dealing with John Jackson . Do your research . Let the buyer beware

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  • Spencer Cornelia
    Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2017 · 321 posts · 524 votes
    7y

    @Greg H. these fake accounts are so obvious to spot.  They have under 8 posts and no votes, no picture, and a clear agenda.  They are some sort of bot that positively talks about a product, seminar, or guru after negative criticism has been given.  Susan May is just another example.

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  • Greg H.Pro Member
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    Broker/Flipper · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Spencer Cornelia:

    @Greg H. these fake accounts are so obvious to spot.  They have under 8 posts and no votes, no picture, and a clear agenda.  They are some sort of bot that positively talks about a product, seminar, or guru after negative criticism has been given.  Susan May is just another example.

     Possibly a virtual assistant creating accounts, but not a bot.  She posted on topics and created a topic on a different subject 

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  • Rissa Collins
    Member since 2018 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    Not sure what anyone's problem is with John Jackson's program, but I have had it for a couple years and use it all the time. If i have a problem, question, etc, I can message or text John and get a prompt reply and answers to my questions.  I highly recommend his course.

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    • Kim Camp
      Real Estate Investor · Port Charlotte, FL · Member since 2017 · 1 post · 0 votes
      9mo
      Which course did you do? And for how long do you still get answers after u stop the monthly fee? Im thinking of doing it.

      uote from @Rissa Collins:

      Not sure what anyone's problem is with John Jackson's program, but I have had it for a couple years and use it all the time. If i have a problem, question, etc, I can message or text John and get a prompt reply and answers to my questions.  I highly recommend his course.


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  • Will Sholy
    Specialist · Ventura, CA · Member since 2019 · 45 posts · 13 votes
    6y

    @Melodee Lucido

    I saw you had mention in a post quite a few years back that John played a role in improving your business. Do you mind saying why the change of heart? I inquired about his training.

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  • Melodee Lucido
    Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
    6y

    @Will Sholy,  I am from Ventura also!! I I haven't been back since 2007 though. The reason I changed my mind about John Jackson is, after years of being investor friends, he asked me to be his acquisition person, help train his students and to speak at his seminars. I was shocked at his lack of integrity and dishonesty. It was a very sad reality to me but I left that arrangement with him owing me a lot of money. I still have people contacting me 2 years later asking if I know a way they can get their money back. Some of these people paid $30-50k for his "high-end" courses
    . . after which he basically dodged their requests/calls/emails for what they were promised.  There have been a several threats of a lawsuit.  

    If anyone is reading this that I had contact with during that time I had nothing to do with his tactics. I had no idea things were as they were, and I am sorry you got caught in his net. 

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  • Will Sholy
    Specialist · Ventura, CA · Member since 2019 · 45 posts · 13 votes
    6y

    @Melodee Lucido

    Ventura is awesome! Except for the whole cost of living thing... Anyway, thanks for sharing that information. I don’t want to make hasty uneducated decisions. I may just try to find someone local to pick their brain.

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  • Dave Robertson
    Member since 2021 · 1 post · 2 votes
    5y

    This LeasingToBuy course, as well as his seminars, are a complete ripoff and waste of time.....Lease options more than 180 days are also illegal in TX (AND OTHER STATES) as are the "sandwich contracts' that he repeatedly refers to.  The bottom line is that he tries to convince you that you can get rich by convincing prospective lease- purchase buyers to pay $8-$10k for the right to sign a lease option contract.  If you've ever watched one of his podcasts, you can see that isn't that knowledgeable or confident in what he says....buyers beware on this one.... 

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  • Rob Hollingsworth
    Specialist · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 1 post · 0 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Melodee Lucido:

    I advise you to definitely be careful when dealing with John Jackson . Do your research . Let the buyer beware


     How so?

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  • Melodee Lucido
    Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
    3y

    The best in the LO niche is Joe McCall. A lot of people that live in Ca work virtually in better markets. BP is a wealth of info for you. If you ever want to jv on a deal let me know.

    I worked with him for almost a year. It was brutal watching him promise people coaching and then laughing at "suckers" who would pay for his high priced courses. He avoided their calls . . so they would call me. I would help them as much as I could BUT mainly they wanted their money back. NO integrity! Even his office manager was at her wits end. She said it had been going on this way for a few years.

    Of course I stopped working with him asap!
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  • Roy Fields
    Member since 2018 · 1 post · 0 votes
    3y

    Jhon Jackson had my friend and I working our butts off selling us on buying thing that was supposed to help us we spent over $10,000 dollars and got nothing for it and he refuse to give us our money back he is a con artist one of the best.

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  • John Jackson
    Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Greg H.:
    Originally posted by @Susan May:

    I just attended John Jackson's two day event. His course and event is a MUST if you are a Texas investor, or plan to be a Texas investor. Highly recommend buying the material, and attending his event.

     What makes the event and materials a must ?


     Because I was there!! But....alas...I don't do 3 day events any longer. :(

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  • John Jackson
    Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Dave Robertson:

    This LeasingToBuy course, as well as his seminars, are a complete ripoff and waste of time.....Lease options more than 180 days are also illegal in TX (AND OTHER STATES) as are the "sandwich contracts' that he repeatedly refers to.  The bottom line is that he tries to convince you that you can get rich by convincing prospective lease- purchase buyers to pay $8-$10k for the right to sign a lease option contract.  If you've ever watched one of his podcasts, you can see that isn't that knowledgeable or confident in what he says....buyers beware on this one.... 


     I don't know you Dave but I take it you haven't read my material, or...you've bought several courses and are mad at the creators of the course because you haven't been able to implement them. My little Leasing To Buy business is humming along just fine here in Texas. Wish you the best. 

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  • John Jackson
    Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Melodee Lucido:

    The best in the LO niche is Joe McCall. A lot of people that live in Ca work virtually in better markets. BP is a wealth of info for you. If you ever want to jv on a deal let me know.

    I worked with him for almost a year. It was brutal watching him promise people coaching and then laughing at "suckers" who would pay for his high priced courses. He avoided their calls . . so they would call me. I would help them as much as I could BUT mainly they wanted their money back. NO integrity! Even his office manager was at her wits end. She said it had been going on this way for a few years.

    Of course I stopped working with him asap!
    Melody!!!! How are you my friend?!! I hope you are well, wherever you are. Loved your energy. I sometimes remember the time in my car on the way to Houston when I learned of my mom, and you were there and I'm glad  you were.  Hope you are well. 

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  • John Jackson
    Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Roy Fields:

    Jhon Jackson had my friend and I working our butts off selling us on buying thing that was supposed to help us we spent over $10,000 dollars and got nothing for it and he refuse to give us our money back he is a con artist one of the best.


     Hey there Roy! Roy, not only did we give you our ALL to get you across the finish line....most of the time we couldn't even get you to the starting gate! Nothing bad or personal, but my lord my friend...even my sister spent countless WEEKS for FREE trying and trying to prod you forward.  Business is not for everyone that is for sure. 

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  • Lill Gravatt
    Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Melodee Lucido:

    The best in the LO niche is Joe McCall. A lot of people that live in Ca work virtually in better markets. BP is a wealth of info for you. If you ever want to jv on a deal let me know.

    I worked with him for almost a year. It was brutal watching him promise people coaching and then laughing at "suckers" who would pay for his high priced courses. He avoided their calls . . so they would call me. I would help them as much as I could BUT mainly they wanted their money back. NO integrity! Even his office manager was at her wits end. She said it had been going on this way for a few years.

    Of course I stopped working with him asap!

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  • Lill Gravatt
    Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Melodee Lucido:

    The best in the LO niche is Joe McCall. A lot of people that live in Ca work virtually in better markets. BP is a wealth of info for you. If you ever want to jv on a deal let me know.

    I worked with him for almost a year. It was brutal watching him promise people coaching and then laughing at "suckers" who would pay for his high priced courses. He avoided their calls . . so they would call me. I would help them as much as I could BUT mainly they wanted their money back. NO integrity! Even his office manager was at her wits end. She said it had been going on this way for a few years.

    Of course I stopped working with him asap!

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  • Lill Gravatt
    Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    2y

    Melodee Lucido Would you mind posting what Gurus you recommend that investors use to establish and run their businesses??  In my experience, Gurus are able to help some do well but not all.  Case in point a Guru Carleton Sheets who has now past away (MRIP) sold a  real estate investing course on late nite TV back in the 90's and early 2000s. He was the brunt of jokes about bad real estate courses at all most all every real estate investing seminars back in the pre ZOOM days. However, Cameron Dunlap, who is a very successful multi millionaire real estate investor who made all of his money doing real estate, bought Sheets' course. Based on what Cameron said in his trainings, he started with Carleton's course and one house. Eventually Carleton became his mentor and friend and helped him lay the ground work for where he is today. If I had bought Carleton's course, would I be a millionaire to day. I wish! I probably would have never taken the shrink wrap off.

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  • Melodee Lucido
    Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
    2y

    Hey there Lill,

    I guess the answer to your question is in your last statement . . . "

    I probably would have never taken the shrink wrap off.

    "A course won't do anything but give you the pieces to the million piece jigsaw puzzle.

    You must be diligent, tenacious and Gumby-like to succeed in CREI. It is a job like any other and one must be a self starter. So, the best way to start, imho, is to find people you like here on BP and then see if they also have a YT channel and/or book. Study, study, study. Ask lots of questions as you go. I probably studied about 100 hours before I did my first deal. I have also studied almost everyday since to keep my skills sharp.

    I like Chris Goff, Joe McCall, Brandon Turner and others.

    Good luck to you :-) 

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  • Melodee Lucido
    Real Estate Investor · OR · Member since 2012 · 390 posts · 133 votes
    2y
    Quote from @John Jackson:
    Quote from @Roy Fields:

    Jhon Jackson had my friend and I working our butts off selling us on buying thing that was supposed to help us we spent over $10,000 dollars and got nothing for it and he refuse to give us our money back he is a con artist one of the best.


     Hey there Roy! Roy, not only did we give you our ALL to get you across the finish line....most of the time we couldn't even get you to the starting gate! Nothing bad or personal, but my lord my friend...even my sister spent countless WEEKS for FREE trying and trying to prod you forward.  Business is not for everyone that is for sure. 


     Don't believe anything he says. I was there and spoke with Roy. His problem and complaint are REAL. I can't even tell you the amount of sad dishonesty I saw :-(

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