Real Estate Consultant · Washington, DC · Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 2 votes
SE DC has the most affordable property in the city, but for obvious reasons. Is it a wise long term play for a buy and hold? Share your thoughts with me.
Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 43 votes
7y
Nathan. As you probably know as a fellow DC investor and owner, “SE, DC” includes everything from the Supreme Court, parts of Cap Hill, Hillcrest and many other parts of the city.
Just like most of the city (including NW), DC is block by block. I have properties in SE and they’re just fine (understatement). They’re not in the hood, or what some might classify as “war zones” as some describe specific neighborhoods, and they’re a great part of my portfolio.
I also own in NE and NW, and each cash flow and have appreciated. Happy to discuss any particular neighborhood or area, many of which will be unfamiliar with out of town folks who only know neighborhoods once they’re fully gentrified and overpriced.
Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 43 votes
7y
Nathan. As you probably know as a fellow DC investor and owner, “SE, DC” includes everything from the Supreme Court, parts of Cap Hill, Hillcrest and many other parts of the city.
Just like most of the city (including NW), DC is block by block. I have properties in SE and they’re just fine (understatement). They’re not in the hood, or what some might classify as “war zones” as some describe specific neighborhoods, and they’re a great part of my portfolio.
I also own in NE and NW, and each cash flow and have appreciated. Happy to discuss any particular neighborhood or area, many of which will be unfamiliar with out of town folks who only know neighborhoods once they’re fully gentrified and overpriced.
Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
7y
@Nathan Silver
SE varies from class A all the way to class D/F. I dont invest EOTR, east of the river, which is likely the part of SE you mean. Plenty of my clients do, but I prefer class A rentals. The nicer parts of SE, like Hillcrest for instance just dont have much hype, which drives prices. The hyped areas tend to be the lower class areas like Anacostia. Im fact some of the investors I know invest in Anacostia and leave the house vacant. They want to be in that neighborhood but don't want to deal with the tenanta. 3 years in a row Anacostia has had the highest price growth in the metro area.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 3 votes
7y
Like Wendell said. It’s really neighborhood by neighborhood. Checkout the neighborhood and street on crime maps, use Google Maps and walk the neighborhood to get a feel. I invent in SE, and am happy with the neighborhood.
Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 43 votes
7y
@Russell Brazil @Nathan Silver I don’t have property in Anacostia, but know folks who invest and “even live there”—not all parts are as bad as folks will make it seem.
That said, it a few years when the walking bridge to Navy Yard and Yards is completed, it’ll then be “hyped” and so will the prices. To each his own. I try buying before the hype—so far, so good.
Developer · Laurel, MD · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 1 vote
7y
Thanks for all the great insight everybody! Nathan and I are actively looking for our next DC deal. We currently have one multi-family in Trinidad. We're interested in up and coming neighborhoods - thus the curiosity in EOTR neighborhoods. @Wendell Hall@Elisheba Anderson@Russell Brazil where do you invest in DC and how have you been performing?
Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
7y
@Aaron Silver
My personal investments are in, or have been in (I trade properties alot) Silver Spring, Rockville and Petworth primarily. Looking for my next purchase right now, likely to be in Rockville this go around unless something pops up in Brightwood or Riggs Park that I like.
Real Estate Agent · Washington DC · Member since 2016 · 847 posts · 656 votes
7y
I'm not sure eotr has that much upside left as compared to Prince George's or Montgomery county, outside of Historic Anacostia most of the areas eotr are very suburban and not that walkable so its hard for me to see them going much higher at least compared to other cheap walkable areas in Pg or moco.
Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 43 votes
7y
@Aaron Silver If the city got its act together and actually invested in areas EOTR, Minnesota Avenue (not Deanwood but not too far) could be another great street (walkable, shopping, restaurants, trolley that never was). Area has some small multi families but never had a deal accepted. I do have a SFR near.
Otherwise, I would watch any area walkable or short drive/bike ride (across the bridge in NE or SE) from RFK. I’m eager to see the long-term plans. If that becomes mixed-use— rec, retail, residence, demand for nearby areas will increase. I remember not long ago when that part of DC (near RFK/Stadium Armory) was “undesirable” to some.
Thanks for all the great insight everybody! Nathan and I are actively looking for our next DC deal. We currently have one multi-family in Trinidad. We're interested in up and coming neighborhoods - thus the curiosity in EOTR neighborhoods. @Wendell Hall@Elisheba Anderson@Russell Brazil where do you invest in DC and how have you been performing?
If you guys are happy with the level of crime in Trinidad then you are probably going to be OK with anything EOTR.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 3 votes
7y
I’ve been focusing on Fort DuPont Park. I lived there for 5 years and felt safe. But it’s really street by street. Not many amenities, but very close to 295, Eastern Market etc.
Rental Property Investor · Washington, DC · Member since 2018 · 198 posts · 169 votes
7y
@Nathan Silver most definitely yes. If you look at how Washington, DC has transformed over the last 20+ years, coupled with many other macroeconomic and demographic factors, it is simply a matter of time before EOTR becomes more gentrified. There is a significant housing shortage in DC and it's one of the most stable markets in the country in terms of holding/appreciating home values.
In the long run (10+ years) I firmly believe you can't really go wrong wrong with anything within 0.5 miles of either the Anacostia, Benning Road, and Deanwood metro stations. Drive through any of those neighborhoods, in the right pockets, and you'll see early signs of redevelopment. Contrary to what many people believe, there are still deals to be had and opportunities for cash flow if you understand the neighborhoods and secure the right tenants.
Washington, DC · Member since 2018 · 16 posts · 2 votes
7y
To be honest with you, in time any property in DC will be very valuable. I lived here all my life. I know DC back and forth "SE" is great place to develop.
Washington, DC Metro Area · Member since 2018 · 10 posts · 1 vote
7y
@Jack Seiden May I ask what areas you consider walkable and affordable in PG/MoCo? I've lived in both and would love to consider investing in a walkable, up and coming community. Especially in Prince George's. Thanks!