Buy / Hold vs 70% of ARV - repair costs

Buy / Hold vs 70% of ARV - repair costs

Investor · Reading, PA · Member since 2013 · 122 posts · 33 votes

I find a lot of info on flipping but I'm really not that interested in it. I can barely change a lightbulb without the wifes help.

That said, I would like to create a passive income stream and I do have some funds available and also don't plan to leave my day job, to contribute towards that goal.

Private lending may be an option but I don't exactly have 200K laying around either. Not sure what minimums are there realistically.

What if I find an already rehabbed house, or even something that seems frowned upon......a house on the MLS (eek)?

What are some targets to help evaluate the deal. I'm not a big fan of cap rate since that ratio can vary a lot. If I have 100% financing then it may not cash flow at all....if I drop down 50% of course it better flow but then I need to calc a break even point.

I'm reading, reading, reading, and still not sure how to evaluate deals for my situation.

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Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 928 votes
13y

@Chris Haas - why don't you find a house there in your county, in a decent non-warzone neighborhood, for $45k or so that is basically habitable (i.e. financeable) but needs $5-7K to get it rent ready, that will rent for around $850/mth. Buy it with a conventional loan at at 80% LTV. Manage it yourself, just find a handyman for routine stuff. Join the local REIA group and ask around for good contacts for handymen, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc., from whom you can get reasonable investor-pricing.

Here's what that would look like using a property manager, but I would recommend just managing it yourself and earning the PM and leasing fee portion, which will give you some great experience.

Single Family Rental

Check out these REO sites for your county, as well as basic sites like Zillow or Realtor.com. Also start looking for an investor-friendly realtor.

http://www.homepath.com/

http://www.hudhomestore.com/Home/Index.aspx

http://www.homesteps.com/

http://foreclosures.bankofamerica.com/

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  • Deborah BurianPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 412 votes
    13y

    @Chris Haas - back before we heard all the 'rules' we just did the math. If a property cash-flowed $100/mo after expenses, including vacancy and maintenance, we were interested. As it turns out, a buy-and-hold at 70% of value minus fix-up almost always exceeded that... And don't discount the MLS. 80% of my sfh came of the MLS. Before, during, and after the bubble. It's a lot of looking but they are out there.

  • Investor · Reading, PA · Member since 2013 · 122 posts · 33 votes
    13y

    @Deborah Burian
    Cash flowed with what % down?
    You can get nearly anything to cash flow if you put enough down right?

    Thank you for taking time to reply. As great of a site as this is, I think there are some things others already know that I'm still trying to get my head around.

  • Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 928 votes
    13y

    @Chris Haas - why don't you find a house there in your county, in a decent non-warzone neighborhood, for $45k or so that is basically habitable (i.e. financeable) but needs $5-7K to get it rent ready, that will rent for around $850/mth. Buy it with a conventional loan at at 80% LTV. Manage it yourself, just find a handyman for routine stuff. Join the local REIA group and ask around for good contacts for handymen, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc., from whom you can get reasonable investor-pricing.

    Here's what that would look like using a property manager, but I would recommend just managing it yourself and earning the PM and leasing fee portion, which will give you some great experience.

    Single Family Rental

    Check out these REO sites for your county, as well as basic sites like Zillow or Realtor.com. Also start looking for an investor-friendly realtor.

    http://www.homepath.com/

    http://www.hudhomestore.com/Home/Index.aspx

    http://www.homesteps.com/

    http://foreclosures.bankofamerica.com/

  • Deborah BurianPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 412 votes
    13y

    @Chris Haas - fair question. 20% of purchase + repair costs...

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