[Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Jaycee GreenePro Member
Real Estate Consultant · St. Louis MSA · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 727 votes
10mo
Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:

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Considering this property as a starting point for my investment portfolio. Any feedback or thoughts appreciated.

Hi @Jihaun Whatley, welcome to the BP Forum! Any chance this is for a 2-3 bedroom SFR in Columbus?

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  • Dan H.Pro Member
    Investor · Poway, CA · Member since 2015 · 7k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    10mo

    Do you like to work for free?   That is in effect what you are doing and f you do not include PM fees in your underwriting.

    Your maintenance/cap ex fees is likely too low by a factor of 2.

    You are missing the misc charges like asset protection, bookkeeping/accounting/tax man, utilities due to property issues such as by a slab leak, legal/evictions, etc.

    The 50% rule is aggressive at this rent point and projects $82/month of cash flow.  I think you will be challenged to obtain sustained cash flow of $82/month.

    I believe finding cash flow positive properties is challenging.   Columbus has fairly good appreciation.   I believe if you look at this as largely a learning opportunity, this property can meet those expectations without costing you a lot of money in negative cash flow.  However, if you are expecting this property to make a substantial difference to your lifestyle n the near term, I fear you are likely to be disappointed.


    good luck

  • Jaycee GreenePro Member
    Real Estate Consultant · St. Louis MSA · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 727 votes
    10mo
    Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:

    View report

    *This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

    Considering this property as a starting point for my investment portfolio. Any feedback or thoughts appreciated.

    Hi @Jihaun Whatley, welcome to the BP Forum! Any chance this is for a 2-3 bedroom SFR in Columbus?

    • Jihaun WhatleyPro Member
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      Columbus OH · Member since 2024 · 3 posts · 2 votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
      Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:

      View report

      *This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

      Considering this property as a starting point for my investment portfolio. Any feedback or thoughts appreciated.

      Hi @Jihaun Whatley, welcome to the BP Forum! Any chance this is for a 2-3 bedroom SFR in Columbus?


       Yes it is, It seems like a potential starting point, its two 2b/1ba.

    • Jaycee GreenePro Member
      Real Estate Consultant · St. Louis MSA · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 727 votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:
      Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
      Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:

      View report

      *This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

      Considering this property as a starting point for my investment portfolio. Any feedback or thoughts appreciated.

      Hi @Jihaun Whatley, welcome to the BP Forum! Any chance this is for a 2-3 bedroom SFR in Columbus?


       Yes it is, It seems like a potential starting point, its two 2b/1ba.

       @Jihaun Whatley Is this a turn-key property? And given the size/price point, this sounds like a Section 8 property, is that the path you're pursuing? Also, are you looking to getting a HML or a loan from a local bank or credit union?

  • Real Estate Agent · Columbus | Toledo · Member since 2019 · 608 posts · 768 votes
    10mo

    I'm assuming this is a turn-key single-family long-term rental that you will be self-managing. With that, do you have the setup to self-manage? (Handymen, legal leases, etc.?)

    Numbers are always based on individual investor goals, but this could be a base hit for investors looking to hold for appreciation while making a little cash flow.

    Are all the mechanics brand new (roof, plumbing, electric)? If so, you're getting a steal if this is in Columbus. If not, you have to set replacement costs aside for these as well as ongoing CapEx payments.

  • Real Estate Agent · Columbus | Toledo · Member since 2019 · 608 posts · 768 votes
    10mo

    I'm assuming this is a turn-key single-family long-term rental that you will be self-managing. With that, do you have the setup to self-manage? (Handymen, legal leases, etc.?)

    Numbers are always based on individual investor goals, but this could be a base hit for investors looking to hold for appreciation while making a little cash flow.

    Are all the mechanics brand new (roof, plumbing, electric)? If so, you're getting a steal if this is in Columbus. If not, you have to set replacement costs aside for these as well as ongoing CapEx payments.

  • Jihaun WhatleyPro Member
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    Columbus OH · Member since 2024 · 3 posts · 2 votes
    10mo

    Turn-key, neither tenants on section-8 but it's a possibility. Loan from local bank and cash.

    • Jaycee GreenePro Member
      Real Estate Consultant · St. Louis MSA · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 727 votes
      10mo
      Quote from @Jihaun Whatley:

      Turn-key, neither tenants on section-8 but it's a possibility. Loan from local bank and cash.

       @Jihaun Whatley Couple of things seem off from your Rental Analysis. Vacancy rate of 4% is probably too low - I'd use at least 5%, but 8%-10% is probably more realistic. I'd be surprised if you can get $1,495 in rent on a $125k property. I know the property on Arnsby is asking $1,495 for rent, but doing comps in that zip code, I'd estimate its rent should closer to $1,100. And even if you're going to self-manage, I'd add something to the Management Fees.

      For the loan, did the bank commit to a loan of 80% LTV? Do they require a minimum Debt Service Coverage Ratio of either 1.20x or 1.25x? Also, did they say they'd offer 30 year amortization? Most banks I work with in the Midwest max out at 25 years.

  • Investor · Clearwater, FL · Member since 2016 · 17 posts · 5 votes
    8mo

    Pricing really depends on recent sold comps and condition. Pulling a few nearby sales should help clarify ARV and whether the numbers make sense.

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