HELOC Help

HELOC Help

Real Estate Agent · Ferndale, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 10 votes
Hello everyone - This is my first time dealing with HELOC's and would like some advice moving forward. The situation is that I currently have ~$15,000 in equity to use in my SFH rental. The appraisal is at $88.000 and I owe $51,000 and based off my income and credit score they are willing to lend to 75% through a HELOC. They offered me two options. 1) I open the HELOC for $15,000 at an interest rate of 9.4% when I use it. Interest only payments for up to ten years. The other option is: 2) They pay off my existing mortgage and tie in the HELOC with a new loan of theirs and have a new interest rate of 5.4% that covers the 51000 I owe and whatever I choose to use as part of the HELOC. My current interest rate on the property is 5% with the lender I have on it at the moment. My mortgage payment would go up roughly $10 from making the switch to a 5.4% interest rate from 5% over the course of the loan. And I could use my equity in the house at a significantly lower interest. I'm looking towards the long term however and to me it seems like the first option would still be better deal even with the higher interest rate as it is on a lesser amount and not over the course of a 30 year loan. Also, the lender was going to email me back today about the fees associated with option 2. Option 1 only has a $60 annual fee attached to it. Am I going wrong somewhere?
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  • Investor · Mooreville, NC · Member since 2008 · 139 posts · 58 votes
    11y

    What are you going to do with just $15K?  Are you buying more properties to fix and flip?  I think I would rather keep the rental with the equity in it and use hard money.  Or, an acquisition lender like LendingHome who has better rates than hard money and will lend you 100% of your purchase price as long as it fits their guidelines.  (I am not associated with them, just familiar with their terms.)

  • Jean BolgerPro Member
    Aurora, CO · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    That Heloc is a rotten deal. Have you looked at other lenders? Credit unions often offer the best rates. Around here you can get up to 90% LTV at 3.5% (sometimes even less- my credit union has an "introductory rate" of 1.99% for the first year), no annual fees.

    Without knowing your plans & finances, I would lean toward a Heloc-- if you can find a better rate. It's great to have on hand for opportunities, but you don't have to pay on it when you're not using the money.  When you look at a new mortgage refi sure to calculate the total interest paid over time, not just the  monthly increase. If you've already been paying your current mortgage for a few years, getting into a new 30 year will cost a lot in the end.

  • Jean BolgerPro Member
    Aurora, CO · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    11y

    Oops! I didn't read closely enough. That Heloc is on a rental, so it's kind of amazing they'll even offer it.

  • Real Estate Agent · Ferndale, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 10 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Rob Caldwell:

    What are you going to do with just $15K?  Are you buying more properties to fix and flip?  I think I would rather keep the rental with the equity in it and use hard money.  Or, an acquisition lender like LendingHome who has better rates than hard money and will lend you 100% of your purchase price as long as it fits their guidelines.  (I am not associated with them, just familiar with their terms.)

     Thank you for the response. I will look into LendingHome as well. I know that $15,000 does not sound like a lot of money but it will more than cover the downpayment for me on 2 fully-rented duplexes (plus I have some cash in the bank as I am not trying to draw all of the equity out). I found a motivated seller looking to sell off his 2 properties for a price of 40k each. Rents are at $400 per unit, fully-rented with 2 long term tenants and no lease up until this coming August. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Ferndale, MI · Member since 2014 · 35 posts · 10 votes
    11y
    Originally posted by @Jean Bolger:

    Oops! I didn't read closely enough. That Heloc is on a rental, so it's kind of amazing they'll even offer it.

     That was what I was hearing but I spoke with Huntington and they offered to go to 70% on investment properties and then given my income and credit score bumped it up to 75%. I'm happy with that. The interest rates would obviously be lower if I had more equity in the property but I am just focused on getting my foot in the door on these duplexes as soon as I can. 

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 45 posts · 8 votes
    10y

    Scott, which bank did you approach about the rental heloc?

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