THIS FLIP WAS A HOME RUN!

THIS FLIP WAS A HOME RUN!

Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

This was a project I did with an out of town investor, the house is in Jacksonville, Florida and he lives on the west coast. Originally he was reluctant to buy the house. It was under contract 2x. He almost talked himself out of it.  But after all, he made a great decision and it was amazingly profitable.

Numbers:

80k Purchase – cash

35k – Reno

Roof, siding, paint inside and out

Kitchen cabinets and countertop resurfaced

Plank floor

New tile in bathroom

Repair electric and plumbing

Home staging 1% of sale price

6 month project

165k sale price less 6k closing costs

44k Profit

Regrettably, this will probably be the most profitable flip I am involved with for the foreseeable future. It all lined up perfectly.

I love home staging. The company I use is top notch and it makes all the difference in trying to sell the house. Buyers often have trouble picturing what it will look like with furniture. 

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AFTER PHOTOS

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Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 6 votes
8y

I agree with all the other posts - great project and tastefully done.

But I can't make the rehab numbers work.  For example, a quick "back of the napkin" conceptual estimate (WAG) suggests the following:

  1. Appliances (dishwasher, refrigerator, stove, hood):  $3,500
  2. Kitchen sink, disposal and faucet:  $500 (material only)
  3. Kitchen hardware:  $200 (material only)
  4. Kitchen cabinet restoration:  $3,000
  5. Kitchen countertop restoration:  $1,500
  6. Plank flooring:  $3.50/SF x 2,000 SF = $7,000 (material only)
  7. Electrical rehabilitation (including light fixtures):  $4,000
  8. Plumbing rehabilitation (including toilets, faucets & shower):  $3,000
  9. Bathroom tile (2 baths):  $5,000  
  10. New roof:  $10,000
  11. New siding:  $6,000
  12. Paint (outside):  $4,000
  13. Paint (inside):  $5,000
  14. Staging: $1,650

TOTAL:  $54,350

This estimate does not consider any cost associated with building permits or design professionals.  There is no money for demolition or mold remediation.  There is no money for any foundation repair or drainage improvements.  There is no money in my WAG for new doors or door hardware.  There are no dollars assigned to new HVAC equipment or a water heater.  No allowance for stair (treads and risers) or handrail rehabilitation.  No allowance for insulation or other thermal improvements - such as upgraded windows.  No money dedicated to moving or eliminating interior walls.  No allowance for garage door replacement.  No allowance for new landscape, privacy fencing or flatwork rehabilitation.  
 

I could not have accomplished the level of renovation you show for the dollars expended.  Am I missing something or do you get REALLY good rehab pricing in your area?    

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  • Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Benjamin Larance:

    I agree with all the other posts - great project and tastefully done.

    But I can't make the rehab numbers work.  For example, a quick "back of the napkin" conceptual estimate (WAG) suggests the following:

    1. Appliances (dishwasher, refrigerator, stove, hood):  $3,500
    2. Kitchen sink, disposal and faucet:  $500 (material only)
    3. Kitchen hardware:  $200 (material only)
    4. Kitchen cabinet restoration:  $3,000
    5. Kitchen countertop restoration:  $1,500
    6. Plank flooring:  $3.50/SF x 2,000 SF = $7,000 (material only)
    7. Electrical rehabilitation (including light fixtures):  $4,000
    8. Plumbing rehabilitation (including toilets, faucets & shower):  $3,000
    9. Bathroom tile (2 baths):  $5,000  
    10. New roof:  $10,000
    11. New siding:  $6,000
    12. Paint (outside):  $4,000
    13. Paint (inside):  $5,000
    14. Staging: $1,650

    TOTAL:  $54,350

    This estimate does not consider any cost associated with building permits or design professionals.  There is no money for demolition or mold remediation.  There is no money for any foundation repair or drainage improvements.  There is no money in my WAG for new doors or door hardware.  There are no dollars assigned to new HVAC equipment or a water heater.  No allowance for stair (treads and risers) or handrail rehabilitation.  No allowance for insulation or other thermal improvements - such as upgraded windows.  No money dedicated to moving or eliminating interior walls.  No allowance for garage door replacement.  No allowance for new landscape, privacy fencing or flatwork rehabilitation.  
     

    I could not have accomplished the level of renovation you show for the dollars expended.  Am I missing something or do you get REALLY good rehab pricing in your area?    

    Benjamin, your estimates seem like par for the course for cold-called quotes, but they are high for what experienced rehabbers should be able to negotiate with subs they use repeatedly.  Maybe in some parts of the country, NYC, LA, Denver, etc, those are reasonable prices.  If a local sub quoted me any of those prices, I'd call someone else.

  • Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    Pricing break down.  This is not the entire list and all of the expenses, but it is a good guideline to the costs.  Some of the materials are in the costs.  Keep in mind  Jacksonville is a different scale of magnitude than other cities.   

    5,980 Roof  

    2,350 Siding repair

    2,950 Ext paint 

    350 Screen replacement 

    180 Window screen

    600 Hot water heater 

    500 Appliances used 

    135 lights 

    450 Bathroom repair

    2340 floor 

    1800 floor 

    1300 carpet in bedroom 

    375 electric

    150 smoke detectors

    350 Ceiling repair 

    250 Touch up paint 

    200 Misc caulk 

    100 sink 

    125 garage fix 

    375 plumbing repair 

    175 Window    

    21,315 total 

  • Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    Great job!  My electrician wouldn't open the tool box for $375.

    Best of luck on the next one!

  • Rental Property Investor · Miramar, FL · Member since 2018 · 18 posts · 8 votes
    8y

    Amazing job! @Lesley Resnick 44k is impressive. 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 732 votes
    8y
    @Lesley Resnick Thanks for posting details on some of the rehab costs . Does the 35k include the project management costs as well? I’m assuming also 6 percent or so of sales price for commission ?
  • Rental Property Investor · Bloomington, IN · Member since 2018 · 70 posts · 78 votes
    8y

    Goregous. Truly a home run!

  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Lesley Resnick That rehab turned out amazing, great job!  Can you provide the staging company you use?  How long will they keep it staged?  

    I just went under contract on a flip in Mandarin that has some unique layout features, need some opinions on what and how to renovate, do you have any interior designers you use or recommend?

    Thanks!

  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2016 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    7y
    @Daniel Guas She said they were resurfaced. LooKS LIKE Same cabinets just painted, a good technique if cabinets are in good shape.
  • Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2016 · 17 posts · 3 votes
    7y
    @Lesley Resnick Thank you for sharing your numbers, the house turned out great! My husband Andre and I finished a flip in Murry Hill Gardens a few months ago and haven’t been able to find another flip as good either. We purchased for 44k Rehab ~50k and sold $164K. The market just keep going up.
  • Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Murray hill is a great spot.  I have been doing a lot out there.  You cleared 50k+ on that house.  My hats off to you.  I agree the market is moving up.

    Originally posted by @Jessica Mendez:
    @Lesley Resnick Thank you for sharing your numbers, the house turned out great! My husband Andre and I finished a flip in Murry Hill Gardens a few months ago and haven’t been able to find another flip as good either. We purchased for 44k Rehab ~50k and sold $164K. The market just keep going up.
  • Real Estate Agent · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    I sent you a PM.  BP does not like people to name vendors.  


    Originally posted by @Jason Carter:

    @Lesley Resnick That rehab turned out amazing, great job!  Can you provide the staging company you use?  How long will they keep it staged?  

    I just went under contract on a flip in Mandarin that has some unique layout features, need some opinions on what and how to renovate, do you have any interior designers you use or recommend?

    Thanks!

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