Good or bad deal? Foreclosure auction in Maui, Hawaii

Good or bad deal? Foreclosure auction in Maui, Hawaii

Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes

Aloha! My name is Abner Nakihei. I’m a new real estate investor looking for my first deal here in Maui, Hawaii. Prices are ridiculously high so I’m looking at foreclosure auction sales on the court house steps. I want to learn what is going on. 

It’s in a “C” class neighborhood on Maui. 

Starting bid: $225,398

FACTSHEET

38 Wailani St, Wailuku HI 96793

HSBC BANK USA etc. vs. JAILANIE C. BARNACHEA, et al,

CIVIL NO. 16-1-0379(3)

Property: TMK: (2)3-4-012-054, aka 38 Wailani St, Wailuku HI

96793

Description: Unit is occupied. According to records the

structure has 3 bedrooms, 1 bath, living area is 674 square

feet, and a 120 square foot garage.

Open houses: WILL BE SOLD WITHOUT OPEN HOUSES.

Auction date: Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:00 noon, Second

Circuit Court courtyard, 2145 Main Street, Wailuku Hawaii 96793.

Liens:

$398,470.14

239,034.04

881.48

112.50

42,286.56

1,423.06

$682,207.78

Interest

due from 7/1/2009 to 5/4/2017 @ 7.650% $83.51/

diem

Property inspections

Taxes

Hazard insurance

Real property taxes

Total due

Interest accrues at $83.51/diem from 5/4/2007 to date that

proceeds are distributed to plaintiff. Attorney fees and

litigation expenses will also continue to accrue.

Terms of sale: No upset price. Property sold in “as is”

condition at public auction with 10% of highest bid payable in

cash, certified or cashier’s check at close of auction, balance

payable upon delivery of title. There are no warranties or

representations of title or possession. The purchaser is

responsible for securing possession, and shall pay all closing

costs, including but not limited to costs of escrow fees, title

insurance premiums, conveyance document preparation fees,

accrued and unpaid real property, conveyance tax, accrued and

unpaid ground rent payments, recordation and costs of securing

possession after closing. The inability of the Purchaser to

secure title insurance or financing shall not be a condition of

closing. Potential bidders must register with the Commissioner

and provide proof of ability to comply with 10% of bid

requirement prior to participating in the auction. The 10% of

bid may be forfeited if buyer fails to timely close. SALE IS

SUBJECT TO COURT CONFIRMATION.

Commissioner:

Richard B. Berman, Esq.

18 Ahinahina Place

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Residential Real Estate Broker · Paia, HI · Member since 2016 · 479 posts · 311 votes
7y

Aloha, Abner. I have bought and flipped for years at the courthouse. However, now since the market is hot it's very hard to find good deals as people bid them up too high.

But I would say, if you're interested in this property, go to the auction. You will never get a deal unless you show up prepared, and banks don't always bid up to the amount owed. You can't tell if it's a good deal or not just from the paper listing. It all depends on the price you can acquire it for.

Call me with any further questions. 

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  • Real Estate Broker · Wailea, HI · Member since 2016 · 134 posts · 77 votes
    8y

    My opinion is that if a property is occupied, steer clear. You will have to spend a good deal of time and money getting the tenants out of the home. And when you do, no guarantees as to what damage they will do when they do leave the property.

  • Realtor · Wailea, HI · Member since 2014 · 95 posts · 45 votes
    8y

    Aloha Abner,

    The market value on this is in the $375 - 425 range.  The lien holders are going to have to take a big hit on this one. 

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    8y

    @Mark Waite mahalo! I’ve heard of occupied tennant stories. 

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    8y

    @Patrick Franta mahalo! I saw the liens but really wasn’t sure. If I win the bid I guess I would have to pay those liens too. Yup! This is a bad deal. 

  • Realtor · Wailea, HI · Member since 2014 · 95 posts · 45 votes
    8y

    Most likely. The bank will be bidding as well, and given the amount of debt on it they will be willing to go pretty high to get it back and sell as a REO.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Haiku, HI · Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    Be very cautious about occupied homes in Hawaii.  I just got my occupants out from a house I purchased occupied and it took me 6 months and a lot of money to finally get them out.  They seem to really know how to work the system here.  The sheriff won't evict anyone with litigation going on.  But if you need a good attorney on the island let me know!

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    8y

    @Emily Bowden mahalo! It’s always good to know an attorney. I really need a good deal! Lol

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Paia, HI · Member since 2016 · 479 posts · 311 votes
    7y

    Aloha, Abner. I have bought and flipped for years at the courthouse. However, now since the market is hot it's very hard to find good deals as people bid them up too high.

    But I would say, if you're interested in this property, go to the auction. You will never get a deal unless you show up prepared, and banks don't always bid up to the amount owed. You can't tell if it's a good deal or not just from the paper listing. It all depends on the price you can acquire it for.

    Call me with any further questions. 

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    @Loren Clive mahalo! Yes, me and @Greg Gaudet are going to a foreclosure open house next Saturday from 11am-1pm. address is 112 PAULOA PLACE. 4 bed 4 bath with 1/1 cottage in back. 2690 square ft living space. I’m curious to see what Greg thinks. 

  • Greg GaudetPro Member
    Investor · Pukalani, HI · Member since 2017 · 414 posts · 291 votes
    7y

    I agree with @Loren Clive, the only way to get a deal at the auctions is to go to all the auctions, have the cash sitting around, and be ready to pull the trigger when one of the properties goes for the right price (except when it's a good enough deal to justify paying 5% more at confirmation). And like she said, there's not many deals left at the court house - but there are still some here and there. I like to think that if you're willing to be patient and do the work, there is money to be made.

    That being said, my experience doesn't even come close to Loren's. In fact Loren guided me through my first court auction acquisition. If it weren't for her input, I might not have gone through with that home run of a deal! Mahalo Loren!

  • Investor · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2017 · 187 posts · 108 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Emily Bowden:

    Be very cautious about occupied homes in Hawaii.  I just got my occupants out from a house I purchased occupied and it took me 6 months and a lot of money to finally get them out.  They seem to really know how to work the system here.  The sheriff won't evict anyone with litigation going on.  But if you need a good attorney on the island let me know!

     What she said. Hawaii is a paradise for people gaming the system.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2015 · 13 posts · 7 votes
    7y
    @Abner Nakihei Jr your are not listing the most most important information of it all. What is your ARV. Nothing else matters if you don’t know that to see if the numbers work. If the numbers are killer then figure it all out. I won’t plenty here on Oahu with people in there. That’s the easy part. Cash for keys etc. hard part is getttong the deal at numbers that work. What is your conservative ARV?
  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    @Indar Lange good question. I really wasn’t thinking of that. Honestly just happy to find a deal below retail prices. I have not been to an auction and want to learn how it works. 

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    @Greg Gaudet sounds good! I have the time so I will be going to the auctions. 

  • Greg GaudetPro Member
    Investor · Pukalani, HI · Member since 2017 · 414 posts · 291 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Indar Lange:
    @Abner Nakihei Jr your are not listing the most most important information of it all. What is your ARV. Nothing else matters if you don’t know that to see if the numbers work. If the numbers are killer then figure it all out. I won’t plenty here on Oahu with people in there. That’s the easy part. Cash for keys etc. hard part is getttong the deal at numbers that work. What is your conservative ARV?

    That is a good point. Earlier @Patrick Franta chimes in with a BPO in the 375-425 range and I’d say the same. That does leave a fair amount of spread and cushion for rehab in my opinion. Especially if you can get it for 225k with all the liens cleared. You can do a prelim first to check the title status for peace of mind. 

    But I actually drove by this one when the auction was first announced and... well it’s a rough one! My personal opinion is the older the home, the more potential headaches could come up. This one was built in 1917, and it really shows from driving by! Which makes me think you could easily surpass 100k on the rehab, depending on what you do with it. 

    Personally if I wanted to pursue this home I would go knock on the door, give the occupants malasadas and see if they’ll talk story with me so I can gauge how much trouble they’ll be and possibly even get them to invite me in (Gotta be careful with this, but Its worked for me in the past). 

  • Lahaina, HI · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    @Greg Gaudet nice! I want the experience of going to the auctions process, looking at houses and just being in the mix. I’m glad we are looking at the open house foreclosure next week to gain experience. 

  • Greg GaudetPro Member
    Investor · Pukalani, HI · Member since 2017 · 414 posts · 291 votes
    7y
    @Abner Nakihei Jr Absolutely, I’m always interested in going to an auction. I learn something every time I look at a deal! So I’m always down to join you.
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