Need Help - Is this a good deal? If So what is the offer?

Need Help - Is this a good deal? If So what is the offer?

Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 0 votes

2 bed 1 bath 700 sq ft house - with unfinished basement -  built in 1930 on .25 acres inside city limits, fully fenced with chainlink

Absentee owner purchased in 2004 for $55,250

Unpaid balance $37,086

Home in default for $6561 and going to auction in September.

Tax assessed value $80,000 (50K of that in the land itself)

Zestimate $103 370

Needs a new roof - can't get in to look, but I'm sure its a fixer.

Although I could, I don't want to purchase it outright. What kind of deal could I make with the current owner?

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  • Rental Property Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2019 · 462 posts · 365 votes
    6y

    Well.. 1st... zestimates are worthless. Talk to a local realtor and find out the real value of the home.

    2nd.... find out how much it is going to cost to renovate the home. Compare that to the real property value and see if it is still a good deal.

    3rd... if the above is all good then offer the buyer $37,086 plus moving expenses. 

    4th... if they reject your offer then buy it at auction and set your max bid to whatever your numbers tell you it is worth.

  • Investor · Marin County California · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    You will need to cure the default ($6,561) for sure.  

    If the owner is willing to let you have the place subject to the existing mortgage, paying some portion of the $18,000 the owner is out ($55K less $37K) might entice the owner to give you the keys and quitclaim you the property.      

    Two BIG caveats.  This solution is maximum benefit/maximum risk as the lender could call the note based on the due on sale clause in the owner's promissory note.  Also, you should check your local jurisdiction's law to see if this could be considered in any way unlawful "equity-skimming."  

  • Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    owner is dead this is in bank trust - going to auction - min bid 22k  neighborhood has lots of teardowns and new construction. Could possibly even do this with the property since it is such a large lot. Is it possible to go to bank before auction to make an offer?

  • Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    worried less about the cost than the process. I wouldn't make an offer without due diligence. Bought and sold homes before, but never have dealt with auctions or foreclosures...different animal.

  • Mary CroninPro Member
    Real Estate Investor · Crescent Mills, CA · Member since 2010 · 127 posts · 74 votes
    6y

    You mentioned trust - if deceased owner owned property in a trust, then there is probably a successor trustee. A successor trustee can sell it. 

    If you really don't want to own it, you could consider a "sandwich lease option" if the trustee is agreeable... You lease from owner, then lease to a tenant (thus sandwich - you're between owner and tenant). BUT one normally doesn't do a lease option if you have to put much money into it to make it livable (roof?). 

    Either way, you'll have to cure the default. (either by paying or by negotiating some alternative (tacking missing payments on loan?). )

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