Market rate for full service property management company?

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Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 7 votes
4y

I pay 1/2 month rent as a leasing fee the first month and then 8% per month for the rest of the lease period. 

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  • Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    I use a company called Simply Residential Property Management for SFRs.  They charge 10%.  With respect to filling vacancies, they charge a $295 marketing fee rather than a full months rent.

    I have talked with another company "the Property Management Guys" I think they are the same for single family, but I think they may charge a lower rate for a small multifamily.  Hope that is helpful.

  • Member since 2019 · 104 posts · 35 votes
    4y

    @Chris F what would you consider to be included in "full service"?

    In case helpful - the below are a couple of pages that I saw with fees posted. 
     

    **NOTE**  I have NEVER worked with these companies, and I AM NOT RECOMMENDING OR DISSUADING from their services.  I don't know anything about them - just saw some prices posted so thought they may be worth considering for bench marking.
    https://rentalmanagementguys.c...
    https://www.rpmviking.com/prop...

    I am very  interested in what you find out - please share when you have such.

  • Phoenix Metro, South Florida · Member since 2022 · 37 posts · 19 votes
    4y
    Chris F., expectations of the rate for a management company generally place them at 10% of the income for the property. That being said, the onus is on you to set expectations for what the full-service entails.

    Feel free to share what you learn, because this is a good question to have in writing.
  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    4y

    Depending how high your rent is I had a good experience with renters warehouse. It was a months rent for a years lease and 6 weeks for 2 year lease. (Refilling is free if they do last.). Which sounds expensive, but then the monthly was only $89. When your rent is $3,300 paying less than 3% monthly worked about the same but got the free guarantee. 

    6 weeks for 104 week lease is 5.8% and then 2.7% monthly fee is 8.5% with a free guarantee. But if your rent is lower it’s a worse deal. The best part is the tenant was so good that after 2 years I stopped using renters warehouse and the tenant is still there 6 years later. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Hugo, MN · Member since 2016 · 688 posts · 596 votes
    4y

    @Chris F. We charge 1/2 months rent for 1-year lease, $75/mo per unit management, and $60/hour for maintenance.

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    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    4y

    @Chris F. would you hire the cheapest PMC that was a pain to deal with or pay a bit more for expertise and better service?

  • Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 7 votes
    4y

    I pay 1/2 month rent as a leasing fee the first month and then 8% per month for the rest of the lease period. 

  • Insurance Agent & Investor · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 115 posts · 50 votes
    4y

    Lion Rock, Flat 7% and $40/hour for maintenance not requiring license

  • Member since 2019 · 104 posts · 35 votes
    4y

    @Brandon Hershey what do you pay for placement?


  • Insurance Agent & Investor · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2015 · 115 posts · 50 votes
    4y

    nothing, included in their % fee. 

  • Member since 2019 · 104 posts · 35 votes
    4y

    That's a great rate no placement fee, 7% monthly, and $40/hour for maintenance not requiring license!

  • Rental Property Investor · Navarre, FL · Member since 2019 · 913 posts · 640 votes
    4y

    @Bill B. I had Renters Warehouse for 5 properties. For me, they were one month for a 12 month lease, 2 months for 24 month lease and 3 months for 36 month lease. Plus the $89, plus account setup fees for LL and tenant, plus $7 a month (tenant paid) fee for the privilege of paying rent online. On a $3000 rental, not a terrible deal, but on my $1500 rentals, not a strong deal. For the fees and a myriad of bad customer service issues, I dumped those clowns and have not looked back. 

    Not trying to hijack the thread, 10% seems normal and you should shop around. Be wary of all kinds of BS fees. Remember that a PM company exists to make itself money, not you.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    4y

    @Michael King

    No worries. In Vegas I pay a flat 8% and $300 placement fee (around 4-5 days rent, certainly less than a week.) I would never pay a month or more in finder’s fees except they guaranteed the rent for the length of the lease and this was an expensive out of state investment for me. Guaranteeing zero vacancy was worth if back then. And finding a tenant that’s coming up for early renewal after 7 years was a great catch. $4500 placement fee and $1080 in fees for the first year for $260k in rent works out to a good percentage. (Just above 2% of rent if they don’t renew.)

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