best software for landlords?

best software for landlords?

Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes

Hey guys,

Ive always struggled with separating all my rental expenses from my own, digging through receipts etc. Is there some software that you guys recommend that will help with this? I heard about one on a bp podcast but I don't remember the name. One linked to your bank account and filed it when you spent it, anyways any ideas?

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Lee RipmaPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Prairie Village, KS · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
5y

@Nelson Ellingham

I have a bank account for each property and use Quickbooks to categorize everything. I looked at Stessa and didn’t like it but that’s what a lot of smaller landlords use. I love keeping things organized in QB. I have a bookkeeper who goes through and puts expenses in and asks me questions. I also do my own categorization if I think she’ll get confused. I asked this question as a new investor and everyone said QB. Learning curve for sure but it’s great.

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  • Homeowner · Hinton, WV · Member since 2020 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    5y

    A lot of people use quick books which links to your bank account. To keep track of the receipts, lease agreements, notices and all of that other fun stuff I am currently using Evernote.

    I work for a property management company which uses Buildium but this would only be worth it if you had a substantial number of units.

  • Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    A lot of people use quick books which links to your bank account. To keep track of the receipts, lease agreements, notices and all of that other fun stuff I am currently using Evernote.

    I work for a property management company which uses Buildium but this would only be worth it if you had a substantial number of units.

    Okay good to know, I only own 2 rental properties a single family home and a duplex. The one house was easy but the duplex has 7 tenants and I need something to manage my account better then my current situation. I do have a property manager but he doesn't take care of expenses and bills etc

  • Rental Property Investor · Port Coquitlam, BC · Member since 2017 · 520 posts · 527 votes
    5y

    @Account Closed  first, each property should have its own bank account and every transaction needs to go through it. That way, there is no need to 'seperate' expenses; its already done for you.  From there, use the accounting software of your choice (or just give your property statements and bank downloads to your accountant).

  • Investor · Ottawa, Ontario · Member since 2017 · 147 posts · 52 votes
    5y

    In my experience with receipts and software... In the end you're still digging through receipts. You still have to put the details in, you still need to keep your receipts for the CRA, etc. There are some paid expense apps out there that let you take photos of receipts as you go and then parse them for you. Or you can hire a book-keeper and send scans/photos of receipts to them.

  • Lee RipmaPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Prairie Village, KS · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Nelson Ellingham

    I have a bank account for each property and use Quickbooks to categorize everything. I looked at Stessa and didn’t like it but that’s what a lot of smaller landlords use. I love keeping things organized in QB. I have a bookkeeper who goes through and puts expenses in and asks me questions. I also do my own categorization if I think she’ll get confused. I asked this question as a new investor and everyone said QB. Learning curve for sure but it’s great.

  • London, Ontario · Member since 2018 · 104 posts · 38 votes
    5y

    I use STESSA. It is pretty good, you can scan receipts with your phone, have pretty reports, hold tenant documents, mortgage documents etc. in it. AND IT IS FREE. 

    It was built for landlors and property management. 

  • Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Tyler Stiller:

    I use STESSA. It is pretty good, you can scan receipts with your phone, have pretty reports, hold tenant documents, mortgage documents etc. in it. AND IT IS FREE. 

    It was built for landlors and property management. 

    I just got it running, wicked program thanks!

  • Accountant · NY · Member since 2019 · 99 posts · 69 votes
    5y

    As a bookkeeper, I recommend a separate account for your rentals.  If you set up a business for each rental property then you will need a separate account for each business, and also for quickbooks.  It is easier to keep track of expenses with each property has its own account, but that can get confusing on which debit card or credit card to use for each.  I would recommend quickbooks and then up your subscription to the level where you can track expense by "class". This gives you the opportunity to classify a utility bill as that, then put it towards a specific property.  If you have one or two properties, it might not be worth the cost and there are other ways to work quickbooks to give you the results you are looking for.  Happy to answer specific questions if you dm me.

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    Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 670 votes
    5y

    @Account Closed I personally don't like how some of the software such as QB and Xero pulls bank transactions and then you just simply add them. This isn't the best method. My client wanted to use QBO so I just gave her a discount for it and worked on her books. I have to say that 70% of the transaction I had to manually adjust because some times it isn't just a simple add.

    I do have to say QBO is a great at keeping track of receipts. 

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  • Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 6 votes
    5y

    The original question here is "best software" but the thread seems to be focused primarily on expenses / bookkeeping. For Expenses I do currently use Expensify. On the bookkeeping side I use Xero which works fine, however most bookkeepers and accountants I've spoken to seem to prefer QuickBooks (I lean towards the online version). I'm always on the hunt for better apps and solution so hope to migrate to QBO eventually for existing corps.

    Broadening the original question a bit to "Software" in general I recently attended a very good presentation in which a Real Estate Investor went over their favourite software applications. Following are the notes I took. I intend to look into many of these over the coming weeks.

    Presenter's Tech List
    Buildium (PMS)
    RentSync (listing)
    RentCheck (credit check). Has database of landlord reports
    ZipSure (Insurance)
    QBO, ReceiptBank, HubDoc
    MileIQ
    Adobe Sign
    Happy Inspector (Buildium) - iAuditor is a cheaper alternative
    Ubiquiti Cameras
    Leviton WiFi or Lutron Smart Switches
    Leviton Smart Plugs
    Schlage Encode WiFi Smart Locks
    Butterfly Mx (cloud) or AIPhone - Entry Intercom
    Honeywell or Mysa electric thermostats, Sensibo for mini-splits
    Sensors - Flowie, Floodie, Shuttie, Sumpie

  • Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Nelson Ellingham

    Each property its own account, one cc specifically and ONLY for property expenses. Pay the cc from appropriate property account. Never mix personal and deductible in same account, you’ll just be making more work for yourself or your accountant. Doing this properly means you’re monthly statement is your book keeping.

  • Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    @Nelson Ellingham

    Each property its own account, one cc specifically and ONLY for property expenses. Pay the cc from appropriate property account. Never mix personal and deductible in same account, you’ll just be making more work for yourself or your accountant. Doing this properly means you’re monthly statement is your book keeping.

    I do have a separate account for both rental properties, I'm thinking about having a credit card per rental. Is that what people do as they climb the multiple property ladder?

  • Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Nelson Ellingham

    No. I have one cc that gets used for deductible expenses only and one that gets used for personal expenses only. They get paid off monthly by property bank accounts or personal accounts respectively. Make sure it’s a “free” points card of some kind.

  • Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    5y

    @Account Closed Gotcha! Thanks for the input!

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