Investor · Thorold ON, Canada · Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 3 votes
Hey guys,
Ive always struggled with separating all my rental expenses from my own, digging through receipts etc. Is there some software that you guys recommend that will help with this? I heard about one on a bp podcast but I don't remember the name. One linked to your bank account and filed it when you spent it, anyways any ideas?
I have a bank account for each property and use Quickbooks to categorize everything. I looked at Stessa and didn’t like it but that’s what a lot of smaller landlords use. I love keeping things organized in QB. I have a bookkeeper who goes through and puts expenses in and asks me questions. I also do my own categorization if I think she’ll get confused. I asked this question as a new investor and everyone said QB. Learning curve for sure but it’s great.
A lot of people use quick books which links to your bank account. To keep track of the receipts, lease agreements, notices and all of that other fun stuff I am currently using Evernote.
I work for a property management company which uses Buildium but this would only be worth it if you had a substantial number of units.
A lot of people use quick books which links to your bank account. To keep track of the receipts, lease agreements, notices and all of that other fun stuff I am currently using Evernote.
I work for a property management company which uses Buildium but this would only be worth it if you had a substantial number of units.
Okay good to know, I only own 2 rental properties a single family home and a duplex. The one house was easy but the duplex has 7 tenants and I need something to manage my account better then my current situation. I do have a property manager but he doesn't take care of expenses and bills etc
@Account Closed first, each property should have its own bank account and every transaction needs to go through it. That way, there is no need to 'seperate' expenses; its already done for you. From there, use the accounting software of your choice (or just give your property statements and bank downloads to your accountant).
In my experience with receipts and software... In the end you're still digging through receipts. You still have to put the details in, you still need to keep your receipts for the CRA, etc. There are some paid expense apps out there that let you take photos of receipts as you go and then parse them for you. Or you can hire a book-keeper and send scans/photos of receipts to them.
I have a bank account for each property and use Quickbooks to categorize everything. I looked at Stessa and didn’t like it but that’s what a lot of smaller landlords use. I love keeping things organized in QB. I have a bookkeeper who goes through and puts expenses in and asks me questions. I also do my own categorization if I think she’ll get confused. I asked this question as a new investor and everyone said QB. Learning curve for sure but it’s great.
I use STESSA. It is pretty good, you can scan receipts with your phone, have pretty reports, hold tenant documents, mortgage documents etc. in it. AND IT IS FREE.
It was built for landlors and property management.
I use STESSA. It is pretty good, you can scan receipts with your phone, have pretty reports, hold tenant documents, mortgage documents etc. in it. AND IT IS FREE.
It was built for landlors and property management.
As a bookkeeper, I recommend a separate account for your rentals. If you set up a business for each rental property then you will need a separate account for each business, and also for quickbooks. It is easier to keep track of expenses with each property has its own account, but that can get confusing on which debit card or credit card to use for each. I would recommend quickbooks and then up your subscription to the level where you can track expense by "class". This gives you the opportunity to classify a utility bill as that, then put it towards a specific property. If you have one or two properties, it might not be worth the cost and there are other ways to work quickbooks to give you the results you are looking for. Happy to answer specific questions if you dm me.
@Account Closed I personally don't like how some of the software such as QB and Xero pulls bank transactions and then you just simply add them. This isn't the best method. My client wanted to use QBO so I just gave her a discount for it and worked on her books. I have to say that 70% of the transaction I had to manually adjust because some times it isn't just a simple add.
I do have to say QBO is a great at keeping track of receipts.
The original question here is "best software" but the thread seems to be focused primarily on expenses / bookkeeping. For Expenses I do currently use Expensify. On the bookkeeping side I use Xero which works fine, however most bookkeepers and accountants I've spoken to seem to prefer QuickBooks (I lean towards the online version). I'm always on the hunt for better apps and solution so hope to migrate to QBO eventually for existing corps.
Broadening the original question a bit to "Software" in general I recently attended a very good presentation in which a Real Estate Investor went over their favourite software applications. Following are the notes I took. I intend to look into many of these over the coming weeks.
Presenter's Tech List Buildium (PMS) RentSync (listing) RentCheck (credit check). Has database of landlord reports ZipSure (Insurance) QBO, ReceiptBank, HubDoc MileIQ Adobe Sign Happy Inspector (Buildium) - iAuditor is a cheaper alternative Ubiquiti Cameras Leviton WiFi or Lutron Smart Switches Leviton Smart Plugs Schlage Encode WiFi Smart Locks Butterfly Mx (cloud) or AIPhone - Entry Intercom Honeywell or Mysa electric thermostats, Sensibo for mini-splits Sensors - Flowie, Floodie, Shuttie, Sumpie
Each property its own account, one cc specifically and ONLY for property expenses. Pay the cc from appropriate property account. Never mix personal and deductible in same account, you’ll just be making more work for yourself or your accountant. Doing this properly means you’re monthly statement is your book keeping.
Each property its own account, one cc specifically and ONLY for property expenses. Pay the cc from appropriate property account. Never mix personal and deductible in same account, you’ll just be making more work for yourself or your accountant. Doing this properly means you’re monthly statement is your book keeping.
I do have a separate account for both rental properties, I'm thinking about having a credit card per rental. Is that what people do as they climb the multiple property ladder?
No. I have one cc that gets used for deductible expenses only and one that gets used for personal expenses only. They get paid off monthly by property bank accounts or personal accounts respectively. Make sure it’s a “free” points card of some kind.