New Western Acquisitions (NWA) Review

New Western Acquisitions (NWA) Review

Investor · Member since 2013 · 32 posts · 2 votes

After searching for a real estate agent in Houston on Biggerpockets I keep getting responses from people from New Western Acquisitions. My understanding is that they work in Houston and Dallas. Has anyone worked with this company before? They also sent me a prenegotiated contract that says they do not work with conventional bank financing, no/option/inspection periods or financing contengencies are allowed (they also check a box in the contract they are not required to furnish the notice of properties condition under Texas code and there are no inspections for lead based paint), title company is at sellers choice (buyer pays).

They also require $5000 down payment is the form of certified funds to be delivered at the time of contracting.

I don't know anything about this company, so I am doing my due diligence. I welcome any comments about what someone thinks of this company.

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Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
13y

There are many on BP in the Metroplex that have strong, negative feelings about this company. I personally would not do business with them for a number of reasons that I'm happy to share privately. Feel free to PM me.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Prosper, TX · Member since 2008 · 51 posts · 6 votes
    13y

    I am sure you will get one or more of their reps commenting on this post, as they seem to have a growing presence here on BP.

    From what I have seen, they are wholesalers who mainly deal with newer investors. They are great marketers, and often times because of their "inexperienced" list of buyers, they are able to sell their properties at a higher price than a more seasoned investor would pay.

    I have also heard second hand reports of them taking the $5,000 non-refundable down payment from these "inexperienced" buyers, even though they know they won't be able to close. And they can do this multiple times on one house. End result is whether they sell the house in the end, or the deal falls through with the owner-seller, they have collected 1, 2, or 3 x $5,000 of non-refundable deposits in the process. Again, this is second hand, but from a very reputable source.

    All of that being said, they have a huge presence at all the area REIAs, and I have met a number of their reps who are knowledgeable on the business and good to talk to, but thought I would throw out the info I have to try and help.

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
    13y

    There are many on BP in the Metroplex that have strong, negative feelings about this company. I personally would not do business with them for a number of reasons that I'm happy to share privately. Feel free to PM me.

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    13y

    From the other post, I guess my sniffer still works, I thought there was an odor about it all. :)

  • Licensed Real Estate Broker & Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 521 posts · 104 votes
    13y

    Gentlemen,

    I'd like to take this opportunity to share my perspective as a representative of New Western Acquisitions.

    Joel Stell Hey Joel, I'd like to address each point in your original post:

    I. We were founded in Dallas and now operate in Ft. Worth, Houston, San Antonio, and Atlanta as well. We'll also be opening an office in Los Angeles by year's end.

    II. Our contracts are structured the way they are in order to protect our interest in the transactions that we are involved in. And quite frankly, they stand to protect the investor as well.

    III. The reason we do not allow conventional financing on our transactions is two-fold: I. We typically close our deals within 10-14 days, which is too quick for a traditional lender, and II. We specialize in distressed single-family properties that typically would not pass the inspection process of a traditional lender. As such, we only accept cash or cash equivalents (lines of credit / hard money financing) on our transactions.

    IV. The reason why there are no inspection / option periods on our transactions is they are sold on a first-come, first-serve basis. We sell all of our properties the same way that we buy them: as-is, where-is, how-is. An investor's quasi inspection period begins once a property is "released." An investor is under no obligation to New West until such time that they have viewed a property, signed a contract, and furnished a down payment. Prior to those three things, there's no obligation whatsoever.

    V. The $5,000.00 minimum down payment successfully weeds out tire-kickers. I would argue that any investor who balks at putting $5k down may be in the wrong business. That said, if you find a partner or private lender who wants to finance 100% of your deal, including the $5k down, that's entirely between you and your lender.

    Feel free to call me directly if you have any questions.

    Dan Franks Hey Dan, I'd like to address your points as well:

    I. We work with investors in every phase of the investing timeline, from first-timers through seasoned professionals. One strength of our company is the ability to help an investor through every stage of the process from locating properties to securing financing to recommending contractors to listing rehabbed properties for sale or lease. I personally like to refer to our company as a full-service real estate investment brokerage, which is truly what we are.

    II. The market dictates our pricing. It's simple supply and demand. When the market is tight overall, the price investors are willing to pay increases. On the flip side of that coin, it also increases the buying competition for distressed properties, which in-turn increases the price that we pay to acquire property. When there is a surplus of available properties, the price investors are willing to pay tends to go down. We are a source of properties. For some, we're a primary source; for others, secondary or tertiary. Every case is different. The beautiful thing about our properties is we've taken the leg work out of the transaction. If we present it to you and you're willing and able to buy it, you can! Right there on the spot. No offers to submit, no negotiation. If you see a New Western property and you're comfortable with the numbers, you can buy it. It really is that straight-forward.

    III. We're not in the business of taking investor down-payments. We are, however, in the business of covering our losses when an investor does not perform on his or her end of a transaction. You said it yourself, it's a non-refundable down payment, which by definition implies no refunds. We are also not unreasonable. If ever we're unable to deliver clear and marketable title to a property, an investor's down payment is refunded in full. As I stated above, an investor is under no obligation to New Western until they see the property, sign a contract, and furnish a down payment. The sales process is very straight-forward. The terms of sale are made very clear prior to contracting. We work diligently to prevent "surprises" during our transactions.

    John Chapman Hey John, I'm not local to DFW, but I'd be happy to help resolve your issues with NWA. I'm actually very curious to know what your reasons for not doing business with us are.

    Bill Gulley Hey Bill, we do occasionally work with out-of-state investors. Should you ever find yourself in the market for property in any of our areas, I'd be happy to put you in touch with the right folks.

    I'd be happy to discuss directly any other concerns you all have. Feel free to PM me or reach out using the contact info in my profile.

    All the best!

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    13y

    Probably not, I'm really in no need to chase some property unless you have somrthing worthwhile, which would be over a hunderd grand or 30% ROI, I'm really lazy now and just don't get motivated by the small stuff, thanks for asking. might try the bushes at Will Barnard, J. Scott, Jon Holdman, Rich Wise and others that still play. If it's not in my backyard I'm not interested. thanks.... :)

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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    13y

    I too am mostly interested in only my local market for rehab flip opportunities and they have to be fat spreads with exit values above $300k.

  • Investor · Northeast, OH · Member since 2012 · 239 posts · 106 votes
    13y

    Lyall Storandt

    Is the $5000 an earnest money deposit or "down payment"?

    Thanks

    Sam

  • Licensed Real Estate Broker & Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 521 posts · 104 votes
    13y

    Sam W. Hey Sam, it's a down payment that is credited towards the purchase price of the property on the HUD at closing.

    In other words, if we offer a property for sale at $50k and you furnish a $5k down payment; you'll be responsible for bringing $45k plus closing costs to close on the property.

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2013 · 1 post · 0 votes
    12y

    Just curious why NWA is listing a property for sell on Craigslist that has already gone option pending in the MLS listed by an entirely different brokerage?

    Called on this ad http://houston.craigslist.org/reo/4191391664.html

    After having a phone conversation with the rep at NWA and him not willing to disclose an address it started sounding fishy. So I questioned the NWA agent to give me a general idea of the location.

    Since we buy/sell in the area and know it very well I was able to locate the house with clues the agent at NWA gave me. http://search.har.com/engine/226-Faust-Ln-Houston-TX-77024_HAR78761198.htm

    Red flag.

  • Licensed Real Estate Broker & Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 521 posts · 104 votes
    12y

    @Account Closed Hey Michael, our agents occasionally post properties for sale on websites such as craigslist, MyHouseDeals.com, and here on Bigger Pockets. The reason why we do not post addresses to these properties (except on MHD where it's required) is because we have the properties in question under contract and therefore own a controlling interest. It would be irresponsible to publicly post the addresses to properties that are vacant or could otherwise be considered vulnerable to illegal activity. We also have a policy of not sharing addresses with investors who have not met with a New Western agent and subsequently signed our company disclosure. This is for our protection.

    I can assure you that any property that is ever marketed for sale by New Western Acquisitions is something that we either own outright or have under contract and thus a controlling interest in.

    If you have any questions about the property above or our business in general, please feel free to contact me directly at 405-361-1341.

    No red flags, fishy dealings, or funny business here.

  • Licensed Real Estate Broker & Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 521 posts · 104 votes
    12y

    Also, so there's no confusion moving forward, the property that @Account Closed posted about just sold.

  • Roswell, GA · Member since 2015 · 5 posts · 16 votes
    11y

    read this thread

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/92/topics/75983-new-western-acquisitions-reviews?page=2

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 33 posts · 6 votes
    10y

    You keep the $5,000 if the buyer cannot come up with the funds?

  • Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2015 · 191 posts · 152 votes
    10y

    @Brian H.

    We don't allow investors to contract properties without providing us with a proof of funds, so that situation should not arise.

  • Engineer/ Investor · Tel aviv, tel aviv-yafo · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    I have a very open eyes experience with them, something that will make me do my next steps in my real estate beloved business much better, don't loose the money I lost with them, shave on my beard, don't trust them, if they send you a deal, thats maybe a deal, but never count their word, and check very very very X 10 deep, because they will paint the picture like you want it to be painted.

    PM me if you like more info

    and I am very interested to hear  what the pro's have to say about dealing with wholesalers (the non-refundable/no DD/this is a great deal/decide fast type) lets make this thread a big lesson on how to deal with this kind of wholesalers type.

    Thank you.

  • Sugar Land, TX · Member since 2017 · 15 posts · 12 votes
    8y

    I just sold a house I bought through NWA.  Check the comps closely.  THey may be cherry picked or old.  Although we were told we were bidding on the property I later found out there were no other bidders.  Shame on me.  Due diligence.  Not NWA fault we picked a crappy realtor to market our property and it languished on the market (no names mentioned Lance Lokin...).  Also not NWA fault Harvey came along and removed the roof partially and spoiled the Houston area RE market for several months.  I may still do business with them again although I don't believe the non negotiable prices anymore, I think there is some wiggle room there.  Still, DUE DILIGENCE.  At the end of the day we all pull up our big boy pants and move on with lessons learned.  

  • Property Manager · Allen, TX · Member since 2015 · 190 posts · 160 votes
    8y
    Stephen Jackson Thank you for sharing your experience with NWA.
  • Property Manager · Allen, TX · Member since 2015 · 190 posts · 160 votes
    8y
    Assaf U. I like your idea about sharing ideas with other investors on how to deal with wholesalers. My opinion is that wholesaling is a shady business model and I avoid them completely whenever possible. The only way a wholesaler makes money is by convincing a property owner to sell their property for less than it is really worth OR by convincing a buyer (newbie investor maybe) to pay more than a property is worth. This is only accomplished by being less than completely open and honest. Wholesalers take advantage of less informed and less experienced people to make a quick buck. As a real estate broker, I also believe that anyone who has a license and is engaged in wholesaling, should have that license revoked.
  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2017 · 27 posts · 19 votes
    8y

    Hi,

    First of all I would like to say that I never purchased a property from New Western Acquisitions, but I have been to their office. I can't say if they are good or bad, but as other people mentioned DUE DILIGENCE is a MUST when purchasing real estate, no matter who is selling it to you.

    @David Hines I don't necessarily agree with everything you said in your last comment. Assuming you're a seller and want to sell your property fairly quickly, and also assuming your property is not in a move-in ready condition and needs some repairs. Lets run some numbers:

    • On a $150k home you will spend $9k on commissions for Real Estate agents
    • If you as an inexperienced seller decide to fix the property to raise its value before the sale, consider this:
      • You will likely pay more on materials because you will either not know where to source the materials, or have any bulk discounts from distributors.
      • Managing and finding the right rehab crew will will likely cost you more than someone who does it on a regular basis

    You are correct that the way wholesalers make their money is by either finding a seller that will sell below market value, or by finding a buyer that will pay more. However, from the sellers perspective he's not always losing, because paying real estate agents, fixing the property and paying closing costs can also add up and be quite costly.

    From the buyer's perspective, if you find the right deal in the right area, at the right price you can renovate the property and add much more value. I'm not going to get into different strategies such as Buy And Hold or Flip because every situation is different, but there is sometimes an opportunity for wholesalers to create a win-win situation.

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