Question on 203K Loan

Question on 203K Loan

Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes

I am a licensed contractor looking for a 203k loan on a property in Englewood NJ. I have a colleague who is also a licensed contractor willing to do a lot the work. 2 questions

Any suggestion on structuring the deal/contract legally of course to remodel or I can’t be part of any of the renovations?

Anyone have a good contact that is very experienced with 203k rehab loans to get a preapproval and share details and advice on the process?

Any calculators in bigger pockets I can use to estimate after remodel value?

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Real Estate Agent · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 543 votes
3y

@Janille Jackson

HUD guidelines allow borrowers to do their own work on a 203k (called a self-help arrangement).

But 99.9% of lenders will not allow this because of the liability they would inherit, possible timeline/deadline violations, etc. 

Even if self help was approved by the lender, the borrower/contractor will have to include the profit and overhead into the pricing that is added to the loan just in case the borrower/contractor cannot finish the project, there needs to be sufficient funds in the rehab account to pay another contractor to finish it. 

So, you won't save $ on the loan amount, or down payment amount, or even your monthly payments by doing a self help.

Any money left over in the rehab account (think sweat equity for a self help 203k), you can do additional work (Standard 203k only) or use it to reduce your loan balance (monthly payments remain the same). 

Best to use a Certified 203k Contractor or get accredited yourself, which could be a good selling point to the lender when you ask them to do a self help 203k. 

Hope this helps! 

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  • Lender · Tampa/St. Petersburg/Sarasota FL and Knoxville/Sevierville/Maryville, TN · Member since 2018 · 361 posts · 178 votes
    3y

    Hi @Janille Jackson,

    Even if you are a contract. There are specific guidelines that say you cannot do any of the work. I also work with an amazing Lender in NJ! 

  • Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    Your licensed buddy has to sign that he is doing 100% of everything, he will get a 1099, this is a Federal loan so you don't want to cheat on trying to use your free labor and have him pay you.

    203k is a FABULOUS tool. You can rehab but not do certain things like a pool or gazebo. You have to qualify full documentation (IRS returns for 2020 2021 and w-2/1099 for 2022) 

  • Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Katherine Blazer:

    Hi @Janille Jackson,

    Even if you are a contract. There are specific guidelines that say you cannot do any of the work. I also work with an amazing Lender in NJ! 


  • Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
    3y

    Hi Katherine got it thank you so much for your reply! 

  • Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
    3y

    Caroline thank you so much for your reply I have do now done more research reading up on the Fannie Homestyle loans as well since we can afford the 5% and there is a do it your self option with some limitations. Thanks again! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 543 votes
    3y

    @Janille Jackson

    HUD guidelines allow borrowers to do their own work on a 203k (called a self-help arrangement).

    But 99.9% of lenders will not allow this because of the liability they would inherit, possible timeline/deadline violations, etc. 

    Even if self help was approved by the lender, the borrower/contractor will have to include the profit and overhead into the pricing that is added to the loan just in case the borrower/contractor cannot finish the project, there needs to be sufficient funds in the rehab account to pay another contractor to finish it. 

    So, you won't save $ on the loan amount, or down payment amount, or even your monthly payments by doing a self help.

    Any money left over in the rehab account (think sweat equity for a self help 203k), you can do additional work (Standard 203k only) or use it to reduce your loan balance (monthly payments remain the same). 

    Best to use a Certified 203k Contractor or get accredited yourself, which could be a good selling point to the lender when you ask them to do a self help 203k. 

    Hope this helps! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 543 votes
    3y

    @Janille Jackson

    And most lenders doing Homestyle will also not allow self help for the reasons I listed above regarding the 203k.

  • Member since 2022 · 15 posts · 3 votes
    3y

    Paul thank you so much for this information! 

  • Lender · Newark, NJ · Member since 2016 · 695 posts · 252 votes
    3y

    would love to see if i can help with your journey. you arent able to do the work yourself, but your the other contractor can. lets connect

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