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Sha Sing

Member since 2023 · 1 post · 0 votes

Hello,

Has anyone worked with ReadyREI in Saginaw, Michigan?

Is it normal that a Turnkey provider doesn't allow you to send your contractor to check the house before closing ?

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Katee W.

Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes

Quote from @Lori Edelman:

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As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.

Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

Katee - In my post I was open about the fact that I decided to walk away before your company made the few minor repairs you agreed to making when entering into the contract. Again, this is due to how long it was taking to get work done, the quality and lack of communication (I'm happy to post examples as well), and frankly, the quality of work expected once I realized how many things I was not told about before the purchase.

However, you did not offer in any way to address issues left by the prior tenant and made it clear that it was my responsibility. It wasn't just a "mess" that they left. As mentioned before, stairs were broken, floors were moldy, etc. In fact, you insisted that house was turnkey and that your "preferred" management company was suggesting unnecessary repairs (I did walk the house in person and they were 100% necessary).

And yes, you did walk the property on a video chat with me, but what I found working with you is that I have to ask A LOT of questions because you are not forthcoming. Both "2 bedroom" units were listed as having the same market rents. If a unit does not having a living room (or the 2nd bedroom is used as a living room) and the unit does not have a shower, not only is the rent you advertised not feasible but why not point these major issues out on our walkthrough? For your ~$10K fee, I expect for you to be thorough and clear and make sure that these things are known as it is difficult to see everything on video. This is a lesson learned for me - I know to look for "missing" rooms for this now but I do feel that there was responsibility on your part as well. I shouldn't have to "look out" for major issues, if a tenant moves out before the close date and the contract states that the unit will be delivered occupied, looking out for my best interest would be to find out when they are moving out and the state of the unit.

I've had rentals for many years and this is the worst buying experience that I have had.

Our contract was about a year ago and the reason why I am responding now is for two reasons 1) to warn other buyers and 2) because a potential buyer of yours actually reached out to me and suggested that I post my story on this platform.

Keep on responding Katee. The more that you talk the more potential buyers see what they are dealing with.

Lori you purchased a property that was occupied. You were literally fine with what we were doing for you up until you found out the tenant left after closing because you tried to say we knew about it which is impossible as we never had contact with the tenant ever. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this on this thread because quite frankly nobody here cares if we are being honest. There is and always will be 2 sides to a story no matter what. The fact of the matter is is if you are agreeing that you chose to cancel our contract together that ensures that we help you out....then what are you here complaining about? You chose to not take our help so yes you got stuck dealing with it....it's that simple. You claim it was because we took to long but as I recall the things we were going to do for you were pretty much talked about and scheduled within the same month of you purchasing the property. Did the contract you signed have any specific timelines on it at all regarding how fast we can get to you? No it didn't do therefore you cannot complain about that as we expressed to you numerous times we work with many different investors. They require the same amount of attention as everyone else and we are one entity....Not everybody dances to the beat of your drum. We assisted you as soon as we could which wasn't even a long wait in the first place......

I dont think you understand what livable means. If the house has all major components in working order a few cosmetic items doesn't make it not livable. The property was being lived in....of course it could use a refresh which we also agreed to do a deep clean for you....

fact of the matter is is that you chose to walk away from our agreement prematurely and ended up having to go about it on your own. Theres nothing wrong with that. You are the owner and you make your own choices when it comes to your property. All we can do is help where we are accepted. we don't control your property.

Based on your response Katee you clearly have not read through my comments in any detail or tried to understand my perspective or concerns. Par for the course based on our prior conversations. Have a good day.

We read what you said and we understand it entirely aside from the false accusations you tried to make in your paragraph.
What do you want us to sit here and go back and forth with you on every single detail? Over half of the things you said were literally false accusations based on your emotion on the situation and I’m not entertaining that of course. Anyone who wants to really know what happened im sure will reach out or try to find answers themselves. Until then it’s just a bunch of he said she said back and forth and honestly these people here do not care about that. It’s entertaining to them sure but it solves nothing as there’s always 2 sides to the story the customer and the business. Almost always it is in the customers favor to exaggerate or make false accusations against a business they are trying to slander vs the business which has much more to lose. To this very day we are still taking on new clients and are doing just fine, so it goes to show you can’t please everyone but that doesn't mean you can’t still do good business and improve. Let’s just agree to disagree and move on! Best of luck to you!

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Wendy PattonBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Clarkston, MI · Member since 2009 · 859 posts · 349 votes
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@Sha Sing no i haven't heard of them but maybe if i knew their names i might know them from my investor group - shoot me a PM if you want
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Tracy Jones
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Could you please confirm if you received a response to your inquiry? I'm considering engaging with this business and am seeking assurance regarding their legitimacy.
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John Barrus
Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 0 votes
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Quote from @Sha Sing:

Hello,
Has anyone worked with ReadyREI in Saginaw, Michigan?
Is it normal that a Turnkey provider doesn't allow you to send your contractor to check the house before closing ?
I bought a property with ReadyREI in Saginaw and they are AWFUL. Do not waste your time with them. They sell to slum lords, do horrible work... Cut corners everywhere... are unresponsive. Do not do repairs to code. Take months to get things done... I found out their repair guy is also their home inspector... so he is checking his own work... it's shady shady shady... run away.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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Quote from @John Barrus:

Quote from @Sha Sing:

Hello,
Has anyone worked with ReadyREI in Saginaw, Michigan?
Is it normal that a Turnkey provider doesn't allow you to send your contractor to check the house before closing ?
I bought a property with ReadyREI in Saginaw and they are AWFUL. Do not waste your time with them. They sell to slum lords, do horrible work... Cut corners everywhere... are unresponsive. Do not do repairs to code. Take months to get things done... I found out their repair guy is also their home inspector... so he is checking his own work... it's shady shady shady... run away. A
As I recall John our contract was fully completed with you. We did all the rehab that was agreed too. YOU got upset because it wasn’t exactly to YOUR standards. Since you want to come on here and make comments to the public show us proof where we cut corners and didn’t bring things to code because a tenant is living in your house right now comfortably. We would love for you to post photos and proof of where exactly we were being shady so everyone can “see” what you’re talking about. Because I have proof otherwise

you even just thanked us for placing a tenant and here you are talking ****.
And for anyone that would like to work with us please reach out before you believe everything you see online. This man’s contract was 100% fulfilled, with this being a wholesale deal we could have easily walked away but we provided him a service
John you seem to be upset because the house wasn’t exactly how you wanted it? Which wasn’t apart of our contract- we fufill our signed contract and then you got upset because you didn’t have the money to do what you wanted done not because we wouldn’t do it
So please get it right and stop lying.

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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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Sha we expressed to you the reason we wouldn’t let you have your contractor go out because these are wholesale deals and we are only allowed 1 walkthrough per our contract with the seller. They like to back out of deals when we have multiple people going in and out and legally allowed to deny us a walkthrough.
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John Barrus
Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 0 votes
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Katee, take the feedback... and thanks for the "tenant" that was poorly vetted and immediately stopped paying and now I have to evict after 1 month... just another in a long line of failures on your part...
You have a very unsatisfied customer that will not work with you ever again.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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So that’s your response? Nothing to back up your claims? This all comes down to you being upset which is your right but don’t come back and blame the people who were helping you out.
You don’t blame the property management for a tenant choosing not to pay their rent for whatever reason. It’s not their fault, screening and placing a tenant has no prejudice. If they pass all of the checks and have the proper income then they have a shot at moving in. If they choose to stop paying rent later they are held accountable for that. It’s very simple how this all works everybody knows that.
Lets not forget how you tried to bribe us into helping you out with selling one of your houses with “deleting the comment” after we expressed we did not want to work with you any longer because of the false slander. You are a real piece of work.
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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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I wish that I had thought to ask here before buying a home through Ready REI (aka Millen Connects LLC). I purchased a duplex in Saginaw from them in late 2023 and should have seen the red flags from the start.

An early red flag was when my contact Katee was doing a video walk-through of the property that I ultimately purchased. When I asked what repairs to expect on the property, she was outside and turned toward the driveway, pointing to the cracks in the asphalt, and indicated that the driveway would be repaired. Later I asked for a list of repairs for clarification and she didn't recall anything about the driveway at all and said "Oh I was probably talking about the road work that was going on". I should have listened to my gut at that point telling me that I was being told what they thought I wanted to hear to make the sale. As a side note, this call to make the sale was probably the last time she willingly used the phone to communicate with me.

Per our contract, one of the units came occupied with a tenant. I was not allowed to do a walkthrough or given photos of this unit due to it being occupied. 2 day prior to closing, I was told that the tenant was moving out. Given that the lease agreement had a 30 day notice period clause, I asked when the tenant was going to move out. It wasn’t until AFTER closing that I was told that the tenant had already vacated! Later I spoke with the homeowner and learned that the tenant moved out abruptly. Either Ready REI knew that the tenant had moved out and waited until closing to tell me, or they were not diligent in asking the fundamental question of when the tenant is moving out. If they were looking out for my best interest and knew that they tenant was moving out, they could have taken that opportunity to show me the unit.

I had been told that Ready REI's "contractors" had gone through the duplex including the occupied unit and deemed it move in ready, however the home had MANY issues, and the unit that the tenant moved out of was a complete dump that required a ton of work – much more work than Ready REI let on. I believe that they did not tell me that the tenant moved out before closing because they were concerned that I would now want to see the unit before closing – and would realize what a mess it was. I've posted some pictures of how I inherited the home. Since I bought the duplex, I have noticed that ReadyREI tries to limit property viewing as much as possible, and I believe that the reason for this is clear - it is to hide issues and the condition of the property as much as possible.
When I first spoke with Ready REI, I was told that they provide a "turnkey" house, that nothing needed to be done to get it ready for occupancy. There were a few small items we identified during the video walkthrough of the unoccupied unit that they agreed to address, but I found out after closing – by way of their "preferred" property manger - that a ton of work was needed. Ready REI insisted that these repairs were unnecessary however 1) there is no way that we could get the rent that Ready REI advertised without repairs and 2) without repairs, the house was not just dangerous, but also uninsurable. Mind you, I was clear with Katee that I'm not a slum lord. Ready REI later clarified that "turnkey" means that the minimum has been met in order for a tenant to live inside the unit; it does not mean that the outside of the unit is in good condition (eg the roof or porch). Total bait and switch. Here is what they consider "turnkey":

- The stairs to the basement and front porch were deteriorating and hazardous.-

- The carpet was nasty and walls unpainted and chipping.

- The bathroom flooring was covered in mold and needed to be replaced.

- The kitchen sink was unsecured and fell into the kitchen cabinet.

- My insurance was cancelled until I fixed roof issues.

- Debris littered the recently occupied unit, the basement, and all over the back yard.

As mentioned, we had an initial video walk through before the contract to purchase. The unoccupied unit was advertised as a 2 bedroom but as it turns out, it is actually a 1 bedroom (or a 2 bedroom without a living room). There is no shower and the appliances were trash. Sure, buyer beware (I'll never buy a home sight unseen again), but terrible deceptive business practices and I can’t get the rent they estimated for this unit with it being only a 1 bedroom without a shower.

After the sale, Ready REI was very slow on getting quotes and the few minor repairs done that we had agreed to. They would say that their contractors would be there on x day and then I would never hear from them. Later they stated that they purposefully did not include timing in our contract so they could take as much time as they needed. Later when speaking with ReadyREI about these issues they indicated that if I don't hear back when they said a contractor was going to show up, that simply means that they weren't able to make it and I should not need any communication (they just wanted me to go away and do things when they wanted).

One day several weeks after close, they sent me an "invoice" via email with no body, just an attachment with a jumble of line items - It included one of the two items they were getting a quote for me on (new flooring), some but not all of the items they were supposed to fix as part of the contract (with prices even though they were paying), and a few other items I was not familiar with. At that point, I was fed up and consulting a lawyer and was waiting to respond to Katee until I had legal advice. Well, now all of a sudden getting back to her was urgent, she needed to know asap what I wanted to do about the "invoice", and she refused to talk on the phone. She could go back and forth all day via text, but told me repeatedly that she did not have the time to talk on the phone. I eventually got her and her "boss" on the phone after my lawyer sent them a letter, and rather than address any issues, they became defensive and accepted no responsibility. They tried to gaslight me rather than committing to doing better. All they cared about was why it took me over a week to respond to their "invoice" (it turns out that it was quote but they don't seem to know the difference between an invoice and a quote or pay any attention to detail).

Ironically, my current tenant was one found by ReadyREI for another client of theirs. They moved into to my duplex after ReadyREI placed them at another home and failed to make repairs. They were vetted by ReadyREI and have been behind in rent multiple times. The other unit that turned out to be one bedroom is still vacant and now needs significant repairs and I barely see any revenue because of all of the ongoing repairs that are needed (eg the kitchen tile has come apart). Their "preferred" management company as it turns out isn't so great and has told me that wholesalers such as ReadyREI call them "preferred" to make it seem like there is more of a relationship than there really is.

I would never work with this deceptive and unprofessional company again. I don't understand why they operate this way. Had they been honest and done a great job I would continue buying through them but I am one and done. Whether you are thinking of buying a "turnkey" or "rehab included" home from them, be sure to get 100% clarification on what they mean by "turnkey" or rehab and further to that, insist on seeing the home in person.
Some pictures of my "turnkey" duplex when I first bought it:

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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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Quote from @Katee W.:

So that’s your response? Nothing to back up your claims? This all comes down to you being upset which is your right but don’t come back and blame the people who were helping you out.
You don’t blame the property management for a tenant choosing not to pay their rent for whatever reason. It’s not their fault, screening and placing a tenant has no prejudice. If they pass all of the checks and have the proper income then they have a shot at moving in. If they choose to stop paying rent later they are held accountable for that. It’s very simple how this all works everybody knows that.
Lets not forget how you tried to bribe us into helping you out with selling one of your houses with “deleting the comment” after we expressed we did not want to work with you any longer because of the false slander. You are a real piece of work.

Take the feedback from John, Katee. I have owned long term rentals for over 20 years and the tenant vetted by your company is the first that I have ever had that did not pay their rent on time. It is no coincidence that the tenant you found for both of us did not pay their rent. A proper vetting process - background, employment, credit, and reference checks - will weed out 99% of problem tenants. My criteria is very strict. You speak without providing details. For example, what is the required income to rent ratio, amount of time spent at current employer, credit score, etc etc. You have to understand that without specifics you appear defensive rather than credible (what does "pass all of the checks and have proper income" mean?). Are you willing to reject several potential tenants until you find the right fit (I doubt it given how you were always talking about how busy you were)? I want to work with providers and companies that can accept responsibility and take a "customer first" approach, rather than getting defensive and making accusations, and your response is John actually hurts you more than helps.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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Quote from @Lori Edelman:

Quote from @Katee W.:

So that’s your response? Nothing to back up your claims? This all comes down to you being upset which is your right but don’t come back and blame the people who were helping you out.
You don’t blame the property management for a tenant choosing not to pay their rent for whatever reason. It’s not their fault, screening and placing a tenant has no prejudice. If they pass all of the checks and have the proper income then they have a shot at moving in. If they choose to stop paying rent later they are held accountable for that. It’s very simple how this all works everybody knows that.
Lets not forget how you tried to bribe us into helping you out with selling one of your houses with “deleting the comment” after we expressed we did not want to work with you any longer because of the false slander. You are a real piece of work.

Take the feedback from John, Katee. I have owned long term rentals for over 20 years and the tenant vetted by your company is the first that I have ever had that did not pay their rent on time. It is no coincidence that the tenant you found for both of us did not pay their rent. A proper vetting process - background, employment, credit, and reference checks - will weed out 99% of problem tenants. My criteria is very strict. You speak without providing details. For example, what is the required income to rent ratio, amount of time spent at current employer, credit score, etc etc. You have to understand that without specifics you appear defensive rather than credible (what does "pass all of the checks and have proper income" mean?). Are you willing to reject several potential tenants until you find the right fit (I doubt it given how you were always talking about how busy you were)? I want to work with providers and companies that can accept responsibility and take a "customer first" approach, rather than getting defensive and making accusations, and your response is John actually hurts you more than helps.

Everything still stands in the previous comment. You rushing to defend another customer we had doesn't make your slander look any better. We mean what we say. We have the ability to prove and back up everything we say. Your pretty much on here lying trying to make us look bad same as John did all because you were upset in how your investment went. But you fail to mention that this went this way because of your decision. There is always 2 sides to a story lori. We have nothing to be upset about or to be "defensive" about. We are simply just responding to the slander to let everyone here know that it's exactly that....slander. it's been 2 years and your still upset? We literally made a mutual agreement to cancel the contract based on YOUR decision yet here you are years later trying to slander us. What's your actual goal in this? It's not going to stop people from working with us because unlike you other investors understand that no one person is responsible for anothers investments. You chose not to work with us all because the tenant decided to move out and trash the place post closing......as if that was our fault. We offered to help you during that! You chose to believe that it was our fault, point the finger and cancel the contract. So now your upset that you were stuck with all of that to clean up? Who did you think was going to do it if it wasnt us?
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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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Quote from @Katee W.:

As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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This Is for everyone's reference who comes to this thread and are wondering what we do and why these 2 people are upset.

We are wholesalers. Literally. We Go after properties that are either rent ready or don't need much to be rent ready. Now to provide extra comfort and convenience to our buyers (who are mostly out of state) we agree to help them out by getting them set up with local property management that we work with closely as well as assisting management market the property for rent to place tenants. If the property we sell is in need of rehab we agree to take a portion of our assignment fee and fix up the property to make sure its rent ready. Typically these repairs are mostly cosmetics. If more important items such as plumbing, electric or mechanicals are not working we will also address that for them but typically we avoid those kinds of properties if its to extensive.

For those who are familiar with wholesaling you fully understand that to wholesale none of what we just mentioned above is necessary or obligated to be done in order to wholesale. That being said WE CHOSE TO DO THIS.

so to the 2 so called "investors" who are here trying to slander us claiming we are "scamming them" or trying to convince them to buy a property under these conditions.....thats false as none of this is necessary to wholesale a deal and make profit......

Over half of these investors arent even familiar with what wholesaling even is and so when they get upset about something that has to do with their property....because we offer to help them out....they immediately point the finger at us as if whatever happens to their property is somehow our fault.

That is why these 2 are here complaining!! Nothing more nothing less! its a simple matter of them being uneducated on what wholesaling is and they fail to realize that anything we do for them after closing is to help them and is a mutual agreement.

NO THE ASSIGNMENT FEE IS NOT YOUR MONEY. IT GOES TO THE WHOLESALER. THEREFORE YOU CANNOT FORCE A WHOLESALER TO INVEST IN YOUR PROPERTY OUTSISE OF WHAT WAS AGREED ON.

For example the john guy purchased a property from us that needed rehab. We rehabbed the property for him and placed a tenant for him. Exactly as we said we would. You know what his complaint was? The materials used for rehab werent up to his standards. For anyone who has a brain you would realize he has absolutely no right to get upset about the materials used as he isnt the one paying for the rehab to be done. We are! It's a sign of being entitled and ungrateful considering the house wasn't even livable before we went in and made the repairs. That's the entire reason he was upset.

Lori here on the other hand is trying to makebit seem like her situation was similar when it totally wasn't. She purchased a occupied property and after closing the tenant decided to vacate the property and leave a mess. We offered to fix it but with her discovering what the tenant did she immediately pointed the finger at us to make it seem like we knew the tenant did that or it was somehow our fault.

WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS ACTIONS!! you would think that would be common sense but I guess not these days.

in conclusion this is real estate. Every property comes with its own characteristics and challenges. we have sold to hundreds of investors by now and there are some that had a bad experience as far as the property goes but theres also tons who havent had any issues. We have a large following on social media and we have great standing with the business association in michigan. We are literally one of the top wholesalers in michigan.

DO NOT INVEST INTO PROPERTY EXEPECTING EVERYTHING TO GO SWELL OR EXPECTING YOUR JOURNEY TO GO THE EXACT SAME AS SOMEONE ELSES AND THEN TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY.
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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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Quote from @Katee W.:

As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

Katee - In my post I was open about the fact that I decided to walk away before your company made the few minor repairs you agreed to making when entering into the contract. Again, this is due to how long it was taking to get work done, the quality and lack of communication (I'm happy to post examples as well), and frankly, the quality of work expected once I realized how many things I was not told about before the purchase.

However, you did not offer in any way to address issues left by the prior tenant and made it clear that it was my responsibility. It wasn't just a "mess" that they left. As mentioned before, stairs were broken, floors were moldy, etc. In fact, you insisted that house was turnkey and that your "preferred" management company was suggesting unnecessary repairs (I did walk the house in person and they were 100% necessary).

And yes, you did walk the property on a video chat with me, but what I found working with you is that I have to ask A LOT of questions because you are not forthcoming. Both "2 bedroom" units were listed as having the same market rents. If a unit does not having a living room (or the 2nd bedroom is used as a living room) and the unit does not have a shower, not only is the rent you advertised not feasible but why not point these major issues out on our walkthrough? For your ~$10K fee, I expect for you to be thorough and clear and make sure that these things are known as it is difficult to see everything on video. This is a lesson learned for me - I know to look for "missing" rooms for this now but I do feel that there was responsibility on your part as well. I shouldn't have to "look out" for major issues, if a tenant moves out before the close date and the contract states that the unit will be delivered occupied, looking out for my best interest would be to find out when they are moving out and the state of the unit.

I've had rentals for many years and this is the worst buying experience that I have had. Whether you are a wholesaler or a realtor, it is your responsibility, especially for out of town buyers who cannot see the property in person and in these situations where you are not allowing inspections, to be very clear, thorough, honest, and forthcoming in your communications. You said that this home was "rent ready", not needing repairs (except a few minor thing we agreed to) and it simply was not the case. I understand the concept how you have described your services above but the home was not "rent ready" or had the number of rooms advertised and that is the biggest issue here.
Our contract was about a year ago and the reason why I am responding now is for two reasons 1) to warn other buyers and 2) because a potential buyer of yours actually reached out to me and suggested that I post my story on this platform.

Keep on responding Katee. The more that you talk the more potential buyers see what they are dealing with.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
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Quote from @Katee W.:

As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

Katee - In my post I was open about the fact that I decided to walk away before your company made the few minor repairs you agreed to making when entering into the contract. Again, this is due to how long it was taking to get work done, the quality and lack of communication (I'm happy to post examples as well), and frankly, the quality of work expected once I realized how many things I was not told about before the purchase.

However, you did not offer in any way to address issues left by the prior tenant and made it clear that it was my responsibility. It wasn't just a "mess" that they left. As mentioned before, stairs were broken, floors were moldy, etc. In fact, you insisted that house was turnkey and that your "preferred" management company was suggesting unnecessary repairs (I did walk the house in person and they were 100% necessary).

And yes, you did walk the property on a video chat with me, but what I found working with you is that I have to ask A LOT of questions because you are not forthcoming. Both "2 bedroom" units were listed as having the same market rents. If a unit does not having a living room (or the 2nd bedroom is used as a living room) and the unit does not have a shower, not only is the rent you advertised not feasible but why not point these major issues out on our walkthrough? For your ~$10K fee, I expect for you to be thorough and clear and make sure that these things are known as it is difficult to see everything on video. This is a lesson learned for me - I know to look for "missing" rooms for this now but I do feel that there was responsibility on your part as well. I shouldn't have to "look out" for major issues, if a tenant moves out before the close date and the contract states that the unit will be delivered occupied, looking out for my best interest would be to find out when they are moving out and the state of the unit.

I've had rentals for many years and this is the worst buying experience that I have had.

Our contract was about a year ago and the reason why I am responding now is for two reasons 1) to warn other buyers and 2) because a potential buyer of yours actually reached out to me and suggested that I post my story on this platform.

Keep on responding Katee. The more that you talk the more potential buyers see what they are dealing with.

Lori you purchased a property that was occupied. You were literally fine with what we were doing for you up until you found out the tenant left after closing because you tried to say we knew about it which is impossible as we never had contact with the tenant ever. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this on this thread because quite frankly nobody here cares if we are being honest. There is and always will be 2 sides to a story no matter what. The fact of the matter is is if you are agreeing that you chose to cancel our contract together that ensures that we help you out....then what are you here complaining about? You chose to not take our help so yes you got stuck dealing with it....it's that simple. You claim it was because we took to long but as I recall the things we were going to do for you were pretty much talked about and scheduled within the same month of you purchasing the property. Did the contract you signed have any specific timelines on it at all regarding how fast we can get to you? No it didn't do therefore you cannot complain about that as we expressed to you numerous times we work with many different investors. They require the same amount of attention as everyone else and we are one entity....Not everybody dances to the beat of your drum. We assisted you as soon as we could which wasn't even a long wait in the first place......

I dont think you understand what livable means. If the house has all major components in working order a few cosmetic items doesn't make it not livable. The property was being lived in....of course it could use a refresh which we also agreed to do a deep clean for you....

fact of the matter is is that you chose to walk away from our agreement prematurely and ended up having to go about it on your own. Theres nothing wrong with that. You are the owner and you make your own choices when it comes to your property. All we can do is help where we are accepted. we don't control your property.

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Lori Edelman if you want a better experience, in a better market (Detroit), DM us please.
Making lemons from lemonade Drew? I respect your hustle! I’ll keep you in mind if I continue to invest in MI.
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Lori Edelman
Member since 2023 · 21 posts · 8 votes
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Quote from @Katee W.:

Quote from @Lori Edelman:

Quote from @Katee W.:

As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

Katee - In my post I was open about the fact that I decided to walk away before your company made the few minor repairs you agreed to making when entering into the contract. Again, this is due to how long it was taking to get work done, the quality and lack of communication (I'm happy to post examples as well), and frankly, the quality of work expected once I realized how many things I was not told about before the purchase.

However, you did not offer in any way to address issues left by the prior tenant and made it clear that it was my responsibility. It wasn't just a "mess" that they left. As mentioned before, stairs were broken, floors were moldy, etc. In fact, you insisted that house was turnkey and that your "preferred" management company was suggesting unnecessary repairs (I did walk the house in person and they were 100% necessary).

And yes, you did walk the property on a video chat with me, but what I found working with you is that I have to ask A LOT of questions because you are not forthcoming. Both "2 bedroom" units were listed as having the same market rents. If a unit does not having a living room (or the 2nd bedroom is used as a living room) and the unit does not have a shower, not only is the rent you advertised not feasible but why not point these major issues out on our walkthrough? For your ~$10K fee, I expect for you to be thorough and clear and make sure that these things are known as it is difficult to see everything on video. This is a lesson learned for me - I know to look for "missing" rooms for this now but I do feel that there was responsibility on your part as well. I shouldn't have to "look out" for major issues, if a tenant moves out before the close date and the contract states that the unit will be delivered occupied, looking out for my best interest would be to find out when they are moving out and the state of the unit.

I've had rentals for many years and this is the worst buying experience that I have had.

Our contract was about a year ago and the reason why I am responding now is for two reasons 1) to warn other buyers and 2) because a potential buyer of yours actually reached out to me and suggested that I post my story on this platform.

Keep on responding Katee. The more that you talk the more potential buyers see what they are dealing with.

Lori you purchased a property that was occupied. You were literally fine with what we were doing for you up until you found out the tenant left after closing because you tried to say we knew about it which is impossible as we never had contact with the tenant ever. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this on this thread because quite frankly nobody here cares if we are being honest. There is and always will be 2 sides to a story no matter what. The fact of the matter is is if you are agreeing that you chose to cancel our contract together that ensures that we help you out....then what are you here complaining about? You chose to not take our help so yes you got stuck dealing with it....it's that simple. You claim it was because we took to long but as I recall the things we were going to do for you were pretty much talked about and scheduled within the same month of you purchasing the property. Did the contract you signed have any specific timelines on it at all regarding how fast we can get to you? No it didn't do therefore you cannot complain about that as we expressed to you numerous times we work with many different investors. They require the same amount of attention as everyone else and we are one entity....Not everybody dances to the beat of your drum. We assisted you as soon as we could which wasn't even a long wait in the first place......

I dont think you understand what livable means. If the house has all major components in working order a few cosmetic items doesn't make it not livable. The property was being lived in....of course it could use a refresh which we also agreed to do a deep clean for you....

fact of the matter is is that you chose to walk away from our agreement prematurely and ended up having to go about it on your own. Theres nothing wrong with that. You are the owner and you make your own choices when it comes to your property. All we can do is help where we are accepted. we don't control your property.

Based on your response Katee you clearly have not read through my comments in any detail or tried to understand my perspective or concerns. Par for the course based on our prior conversations. Have a good day.
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Katee W.
Wholesaler · MI · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 3 votes
1y
Quote from @Lori Edelman:

Quote from @Katee W.:

Quote from @Lori Edelman:

Quote from @Katee W.:

As we recall Lori you chose to not use our services on your own. You made a verbal agreement to cancel our contract that we had. You need to understand that we are only obligated to whats in contract. We agreed to address the issues left by the previous tenant and you did not want us to handle it. As discussed the property at the time of closing was occupied. The tenant then decided to vacate the property and leave a mess in the process. That has nothing to do with us but we still offered to help you. Nobody forced you to buy a property as a investor you are entitled to do your own research and due diligence. We literally walked the property on live video with you and showed you everything you asked to see. A tenant not paying has nothing to do with us either. It's honestly insane how you people call yourselves investors yet your never prepared for hardships or things that come up. YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER! take some responsibility. We literally are wholesalers....our job is not to hold your hand. Our job is to provide you assistance.
Next time don't think you know everything and choose to cancel the contract due to your own emotions. YOU CHOSE TO CANCEL OUR CONTRACT 2 YEARS AGO!! and your still complaining!? You literally stuck your foot into your own mouth. For every angry client we have many more that are doing just fine! Your continuous efforts of slander won't do anything. Every company has atleast 1 person who leaves a negative review but what you fail to realize is that this is real estate. You aren't guaranteed ANYTHING! that's the reason we do what we do is to look out for our buyers.

Katee - In my post I was open about the fact that I decided to walk away before your company made the few minor repairs you agreed to making when entering into the contract. Again, this is due to how long it was taking to get work done, the quality and lack of communication (I'm happy to post examples as well), and frankly, the quality of work expected once I realized how many things I was not told about before the purchase.

However, you did not offer in any way to address issues left by the prior tenant and made it clear that it was my responsibility. It wasn't just a "mess" that they left. As mentioned before, stairs were broken, floors were moldy, etc. In fact, you insisted that house was turnkey and that your "preferred" management company was suggesting unnecessary repairs (I did walk the house in person and they were 100% necessary).

And yes, you did walk the property on a video chat with me, but what I found working with you is that I have to ask A LOT of questions because you are not forthcoming. Both "2 bedroom" units were listed as having the same market rents. If a unit does not having a living room (or the 2nd bedroom is used as a living room) and the unit does not have a shower, not only is the rent you advertised not feasible but why not point these major issues out on our walkthrough? For your ~$10K fee, I expect for you to be thorough and clear and make sure that these things are known as it is difficult to see everything on video. This is a lesson learned for me - I know to look for "missing" rooms for this now but I do feel that there was responsibility on your part as well. I shouldn't have to "look out" for major issues, if a tenant moves out before the close date and the contract states that the unit will be delivered occupied, looking out for my best interest would be to find out when they are moving out and the state of the unit.

I've had rentals for many years and this is the worst buying experience that I have had.

Our contract was about a year ago and the reason why I am responding now is for two reasons 1) to warn other buyers and 2) because a potential buyer of yours actually reached out to me and suggested that I post my story on this platform.

Keep on responding Katee. The more that you talk the more potential buyers see what they are dealing with.

Lori you purchased a property that was occupied. You were literally fine with what we were doing for you up until you found out the tenant left after closing because you tried to say we knew about it which is impossible as we never had contact with the tenant ever. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this on this thread because quite frankly nobody here cares if we are being honest. There is and always will be 2 sides to a story no matter what. The fact of the matter is is if you are agreeing that you chose to cancel our contract together that ensures that we help you out....then what are you here complaining about? You chose to not take our help so yes you got stuck dealing with it....it's that simple. You claim it was because we took to long but as I recall the things we were going to do for you were pretty much talked about and scheduled within the same month of you purchasing the property. Did the contract you signed have any specific timelines on it at all regarding how fast we can get to you? No it didn't do therefore you cannot complain about that as we expressed to you numerous times we work with many different investors. They require the same amount of attention as everyone else and we are one entity....Not everybody dances to the beat of your drum. We assisted you as soon as we could which wasn't even a long wait in the first place......

I dont think you understand what livable means. If the house has all major components in working order a few cosmetic items doesn't make it not livable. The property was being lived in....of course it could use a refresh which we also agreed to do a deep clean for you....

fact of the matter is is that you chose to walk away from our agreement prematurely and ended up having to go about it on your own. Theres nothing wrong with that. You are the owner and you make your own choices when it comes to your property. All we can do is help where we are accepted. we don't control your property.

Based on your response Katee you clearly have not read through my comments in any detail or tried to understand my perspective or concerns. Par for the course based on our prior conversations. Have a good day.
We read what you said and we understand it entirely aside from the false accusations you tried to make in your paragraph.
What do you want us to sit here and go back and forth with you on every single detail? Over half of the things you said were literally false accusations based on your emotion on the situation and I’m not entertaining that of course. Anyone who wants to really know what happened im sure will reach out or try to find answers themselves. Until then it’s just a bunch of he said she said back and forth and honestly these people here do not care about that. It’s entertaining to them sure but it solves nothing as there’s always 2 sides to the story the customer and the business. Almost always it is in the customers favor to exaggerate or make false accusations against a business they are trying to slander vs the business which has much more to lose. To this very day we are still taking on new clients and are doing just fine, so it goes to show you can’t please everyone but that doesn't mean you can’t still do good business and improve. Let’s just agree to disagree and move on! Best of luck to you!

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