Most advice about maintenance reserves assumes you've owned the property since day one and know exactly when everything was installed.But if you bought something with an unclear history, inspection report is vague, seller "doesn't remember" when the roof was done, how do you set your starting reserve?Do you assume worst case on everything until proven otherwise, pad it and adjust down over time as you learn more, or something else entirely?
Genuinely curious how people handle that uncertainty when they're starting from zero information instead of their own maintenance records.
@Giuseppe Cavucci, a few thoughts:
1. Your situation is a little different from an investor UNLESS you intend to use this as a starting off point to acquire and grow your portfolio. An investor is often "active". They may be acquiring new properties, doing rehabs, and REFINANCING properties over time. Some of those actions like the refinancing may allow them to set aside chunks of money to grow their reserves.
2. I am not one to dive into the weeds and try to calculate the amount of reserves I think I need from a deep and detailed assessment of the components of a property.
Perhaps, if I did had 100 properties and did that to all 100 the AVERAGE might come out close enough, BUT I believe the individual property assessments would be all over the map and NOT accurate. I also think someone doing it this was as a one-off would be more likely to be inaccurate.
3. Don't think of "reserves" as just 1 thing. It doesn't need to be just a pile of cash sitting somewhere waiting to be used.
Reserves can be an open line of credit. It can a property with equity that you could sell or refinance. It could even be a purchased warranty (which I HATE)! lol
4. Reserves can also be "TIME" as crazy as that sounds!
In my own situation, my property taxes are NOT escrowed, so I budget for those myself. I budget so that I have probably 25% more than is needed when the bills arrive! So, my habit is to pay them immediately and take advantage of the 2% discount for early payment.
However, if the situation was DIRE, I would tap that money and put a roof on a house or whatever and still be able to pay my property taxes later in the year with additional money that comes in normally.
My FLEXIBILITY aka "RESERVE" is the time built into my systems.
5. So, identify all your "flexibilities", all the levers you can pull as things come to happen. They will be different for everyone. No, they aren't the same as a cash-reserve, but that are part of the "plan".
6. The reason having a PLAN is important is that nobody can or should keep enough cash/credit available at all times to handle every possible situation. It would be very inefficient and lower your overall returns significantly.
7. In your situation, I would simply identify any big ticket items that are an issue now or you expect to be in the NEAR future. So, for example if the roof is shedding shingles and appears 35 years old, you want to be able to replace it in the next few years.
8. To tack on to the roof example, realize that MANY things can be repaired/maintained LONGER than what people think of as their normal lifespan.
If you ask a roofer or home inspector, they will tell you a 20 year old roof with a 25 year warranty architectural shingle is "nearing end of life". Its nearing the end of the warranty, but in many cases with some maintenance as you lose a shingle here and there etc you can keep that roof to 30, 35, even 40 years!
9. If you don't have the means to set aside cash reserves right now consider opening a line of credit on the property or even doing a cash-out refinance to establish a reserve fund. Its easier to get lending when you don't need it as opposed to when the situation unravels in some way.
10. Home warranties! I HATE them! I personally avoid ALL purchased warranties and some insurances. These include gap insurance when you buy a new car, extended car warranties, extended warranties on tools, appliances, etc, and home warranties.
The insurance companies make BIG money on these because people pay WAY WAY more than they pay out in claims. I KNOW in the long run if I skip ALL of them I will be well ahead over time. However, I also realize every once in a while I'll get bit and suffer a loss that would have been covered, but knowing I'll be ahead in the long run is more important.
I am able to skip these things because I can "stand the loss". However, if you are not in a position to "stand the loss", these could be a good buy for you. If you have no reserves and covered issues could cause your financial situation to deteriorate then these products could be exactly what you need UNTIL you can establish some reserves.
They do serve a purpose, but IMO ONLY for people who are not in a position right now to cope with the covered issues.
Hey Giuseppe,
I'd rather be conservative upfront than get caught off guard later. If I don't have documentation on major systems like the roof, HVAC, or plumbing, I assume they're closer to the end of their useful life and set my reserves accordingly.
As I own the property and learn more about its actual maintenance needs, I can always adjust those reserves. I'd much rather overestimate in year one than underestimate and end up with an unexpected capital expense.
All the best! Feel free to reach out and connect with me - my DMs are always open!
I wouldn't automatically assume the worst, but I'd probably budget a little more conservatively until I got to know the property. I've found that inspections and trusted contractors can tell you much more than a seller's memory. Every property is different, so I'd adjust my reserves as I learned more over time.
Most advice about maintenance reserves assumes you've owned the property since day one and know exactly when everything was installed.But if you bought something with an unclear history, inspection report is vague, seller "doesn't remember" when the roof was done, how do you set your starting reserve?Do you assume worst case on everything until proven otherwise, pad it and adjust down over time as you learn more, or something else entirely?
Genuinely curious how people handle that uncertainty when they're starting from zero information instead of their own maintenance records.
If the history is unclear, I'd rather budget conservatively until I have better information. We usually start with the assumption that major systems may be closer to replacement than we'd like, then adjust our reserves as inspections, maintenance records, and actual performance give us a clearer picture.
One of the first things I'd do after taking over a property is document the condition of the major components and establish a maintenance baseline. Even if you don't know exactly when everything was installed, having your own records from day one makes future planning much easier.
Most advice about maintenance reserves assumes you've owned the property since day one and know exactly when everything was installed.But if you bought something with an unclear history, inspection report is vague, seller "doesn't remember" when the roof was done, how do you set your starting reserve?Do you assume worst case on everything until proven otherwise, pad it and adjust down over time as you learn more, or something else entirely?
Genuinely curious how people handle that uncertainty when they're starting from zero information instead of their own maintenance records.
When the history is a black box I don't guess at a number, I go buy the information. Before close I pay for a real roof cert and have the HVAC, water heater, and panel inspected and aged off their serial numbers (every unit has a date stamp on it), not the seller's memory. That turns "I don't know" into a rough remaining-life figure for the big four.
For anything I still can't pin down, I assume it's near end of life and reserve like it's getting replaced soon, then ease off as the first year of real behavior tells me otherwise. It's a lot cheaper to over-reserve for 12 months than to eat a surprise roof in month three with nothing set aside.
The first year on an unknown property is basically paid tuition to learn the building. After that your own records take over and you can right-size it.