But don't concede control in the process of doing that...DO NOT GIVE A RENT DISCOUNT...... this will only give them leverage to try and squeeze in other things that may generate a reduction in rent.

Look even if you are right about the value, then you must concede the sellers are not seeing reality. 

Our systems are good (there is always room for improvement, that Ill concede to).I do agree with your philosophy of having ones cake and eating it too... the day job is good, and Ill keep it... for awhile anyway.

There is a difference between conceding and being reasonable.

Having a property with a house meter is conceding at least $30/month cash flow, forever...

Concede the territory and take your money elsewhere.If you like the hassle free money these properties have been so far, you're not prepared for the intense (and losing) fight ahead of you.Your cheese is moving. 

After a couple months of trying to convince my husband for us to get a HELOC, he finally conceded.

I know in the Denver market, as a seller, I would not concede on this.

I won both Tax Court cases without having to litigate (IRS conceded the cases before trial). 

Only use them as a buffer but prepare to concede them if the IRS objects.Again, you probably can find 15 hours a week of "cleaner" activities.