Number Two on the Books

Number Two on the Books

Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 450 votes

Just want to thank everyone for all the info provided here. I bought my first rental about 1.5 years ago. Last week I collected the deposit to rent out my second unit. This house was purchased as my primary 4.5 year ago. I was very lucky that interest rates dropped in half since then allowing me to refinance a 600/month PITI to 450/month.

The house is rented how for 750/month. After the 50% rule applied, my total cash flow should be 750/2-260(P&I) = 115/month. I am self managing, so in theory, I should be able to "earn" another 75/month.

I found who I believe will make good tenants who had 5 years at their current apartment with only one late payment. Their income is not as strong as preferred (less than 3Xrent), but the rental history made up for that.

The first rental I was lucky to find for 12K (about 5 to 7K less than anything comparable in that area in its purchased condition). This second one I was lucky that interest rates dropped in half. Both rentals I have been lucky to find solid and projected solid tentants.

So what have I done? Just tried to save money and be ready to meet it with opportunities. Having knowledge of what is realistic and not (thanks it no small part to this site) has been a big help.

Now I have both tenants depositing directly to the bank and the mortgage will autodebit from that account, too. Have HVAC guy going around to rentals and primary to do AC tuneups and got a 30% PM discount for multiple properties. Now that's "landlording on autopilot" if there was such a thing haha!

Thanks to all,
Brian

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  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    Very cool, Brian Hoyt! Thanks for sharing!

  • Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2012 · 82 posts · 10 votes
    13y

    Brian Hoyt - Congrats, that's great! What is in the works for the next investment? Are you going to use the same strategy as you did for your second rental?

  • Accountant · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2013 · 68 posts · 2 votes
    13y

    Congrats!! Good for you! It looks like your patience and knowledge had begun to pay off! Keep it up! I'm with the prior post- what's the next step?

  • Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 99 posts · 29 votes
    13y

    That is exciting news to hear. Congrats. On to the next investment.

  • Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 450 votes
    13y

    Thanks all. The next step is to finish up the details on our new home and rebuild our cash reserves - which will be easier with two rent streams now coming in.

    It sounds cheesey, but the house we just bought for ourselves is literally our dream house (we are modest dreamers) straight from the 50's, built by the family who lived in it and who also developed 10 acres in the same neighborhood back in the day. We are the 2nd owners of 60 year old house.

    Along with continuing to save money, we are starting to aggressively pay down student loans. I foresee being able to purchase a third rental in about another year to year and a half. Some of that depends on what my wife's work situation is when she returns fron Afghanistan. We will definitely not move out and convert the house we just bought. It would profit as a rental, but we like it too much and it is just too much work to move and set a new house up for ourselves to do it any time soon.

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
    13y

    That's awesome Brian. Glad to hear everything's going well for you. I'm kind of curious why you have decided to aggressively pay down student loans. Are they a high rate? (I ask because I think we're around the same age and my rates are super low, at least as to the gov't loans.)

  • Deborah BurianPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 412 votes
    13y

    Brian Hoyt - we are modest dreamers too :-). Congratulations to you!

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    Congrats Brian. The next one should be even easier.

    Is your new home in Arlington?

  • Investor · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 450 votes
    13y

    John Chapman, my student loans vary from 4.75 to 6.8 percent. I will be paying several of the loans at 6.8 percent. Although, yes, I can probably find a better return in a rental, the student loans count against my DTI ratio and I have deferred them for several years - so it is time to start paying them. Student loans are the only thing that can't be dissolved in a bankruptcy, and we have an opportunity window to pay some off, so now is the time. I wish I could refinance them at under 4 percent (or even 5), but when I have looked at consolidation, they just consolidate under a weighted average of existing interest rates, so the savings is minimal and then the debt is lumped into one big loan rather than a bunch of small ones that you can chip away at and reduce your monthly obligation as you go. If I calculale a first year "COC return" on paying off the student loans, it is about 15 percent. Not a perfect analysis, but another way to see the benefit of paying them off. If you know of any way to refi SLs at lower rates, I'm all ears.

    Jon Klaus, yes the new house is in Arlington also - near Arlington High School in the South Davis neighborhood. We bought the house in time to attend the annual block party put together by the neighbors (no HOA) and they barricade the street off. How is that for good neighobrs?

  • Investor · Woburn, MA · Member since 2013 · 40 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Question to the group.. I bought "Landlording on Autopilot " and have only just started reading but he makes it sound like buying rentals is like putting a nickle in a jar.... Maybe someone else has read this cover to cover and can tell me how a guy working a normal 9-5 job can buy 50+ rentals a year like it's no big deal....
    Thoughts?
    Tks JD

  • Investor · Woburn, MA · Member since 2013 · 40 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    @ James H. Sorry meant to say first and foremost CONGRATS to you!

  • Real Estate Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2010 · 449 posts · 173 votes
    13y

    Brian, congratulations on #2!

  • Investor · Southeast/ Midwest states · Member since 2013 · 67 posts · 13 votes
    13y

    Congratulations to you! You are an inspiration!

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