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SFR Investor · Las Vegas, Nevada


Hi All,
need a little advice. My wife and I purchased our home in california last year with an fha loan. My wife was offered a new job in las vegas and she took it. We rented a house and I am still commuting at my job in California. I do have the ability to transfer when the time is right. So, once she took the new position we sold our home using a land contract, which im carrying for 5 years.

Now we are looking for a new home in Vegas. I have talked to maybe 20 loan officers, every single one saying something different.

I can do 10% down if needed to, maybe even 20%. I would prefer to get an FHA loan though. Now all the loan officers ive talked to are trying to treat the sale of the property as a rental property. With that being said, you need to have 25% equity or 2 years on taxes to use the rental income, which there is neither. So the problem is that without the "rental" income were at like 56% DTI. So ive been told regardless if i put 3-20% im still over my DTI

is this correct? Any other ways?

thanks


Note Investor · Tempe, Arizona


Your problem is that selling via a land contract leaves you still liable for and primary party of the loan you took out to purchase the property.

So in a very real way this is close to you having a renter for a property you own, except that you do not get the benefit of any appreciation, but you are stuck with the risk of default.

As long as you are party to the loan and the loan exists (not paid off) this qualifiying problem will haunt you.

You need to consider purchase without a qualifying loan. Doing a land contract for a home in Vegas on which you will be on the buy side instead of the sell side is one alternative (albiet with it's own risks). Finding a house owned free and clear and buying with owner financing is another. If a family member is flush (or has good credit) they can buy the house and lease it to you with an option to purchase. Of course with all the houses out there you can just rent until the two tax return period is up and you qualify for a mortgage.

Good luck!


Note Investor · Tempe, Arizona


Your problem is that selling via a land contract leaves you still liable for and primary party of the loan you took out to purchase the property.

So in a very real way this is close to you having a renter for a property you own, except that you do not get the benefit of any appreciation, but you are stuck with the risk of default.

As long as you are party to the loan and the loan exists (not paid off) this qualifiying problem will haunt you.

You need to consider purchase without a qualifying loan. Doing a land contract for a home in Vegas on which you will be on the buy side instead of the sell side is one alternative (albiet with it's own risks). Finding a house owned free and clear and buying with owner financing is another. If a family member is flush (or has good credit) they can buy the house and lease it to you with an option to purchase. Of course with all the houses out there you can just rent until the two tax return period is up and you qualify for a mortgage.

Good luck!


Real Estate Investor · Austin, Texas


I have had former sellers in similiar situations get the rental income counted with 9-12 months of statements instead of 2 years. If you PM me I can put you into touch with some good mortgage brokers that can probably help.

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SFR Investor · Las Vegas, Nevada


well i can try to find some homes that are f&c and try that route. But Im looking at a specific home, not just any house i can get my hands on.

As far as rental income, its not going to show up on my taxes. he takes the write off. So, there will never be two years of it on my returns as a rental property. And He pays via a loan servicing company.


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


he may take the write offs at tax time for the property, but you still are receiving income each month in the form of payments...you must report those, and if you have been reporting those, then it's proof that they have been paying you consistently.


SFR Investor · Las Vegas, Nevada


Well he has only made two payments. Im trying to get approved now, not in 2 years.


Real Estate Investor · Charlotte, North Carolina


sorry to be the bearer of bad news but 2 months probably is not enough payment history unless you have a substantial amount of income that more than covers both mortgages.. have you thought about selling your note? if the buyer has decent credit, downpayment, and the property will appraise then it may be better to sell the note and move on. prices for notes are correllated to seasoning, but there are some note buyers who will buy newer notes as well




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