3 differences between me and gurus - I don't promise success; I tell them how hard this is - flat out; and cost of CFFU will not require that you mortgage your house.
I teach people to think Bill. I share perspective. What they do or do not do with that is on them... But, a statement of truth is this: money follows perspective and skills - is that a fair statement Bill?
Real Estate Broker · Cypress, TX · Member since 2013 · 822 posts · 468 votes
12y
Hey Deano! I've been investing since 2000 and have been considering entering the multi family arena when I ran across Ben's podcast. I became an avid reader of his posts, and eventually ordered his program. I can honestly say it was worth every penny.
Ben's program gives you a super comprehensive overview of real estate from just about every angle I can think of: Economic, Financial, Technical, Tax, Creative, Long-term Planning, etc. He also has an entire section dedicated to Case Studies, which was my favorite part. And btw, even if multis are not your thing, there is a ton of value in the course for other asset classes.
If you choose to order the program, trust me, it is going to make you look at real estate from a perspective you more than likely had previously not thought of. I know it did for me. The information provided coupled with his promise of you having access to him for questions makes it worth every penny.
my problem with multi's is that they are asking too much for them. a 4 unit in a C area goes for around $275 asking. rents are 750 tops.
how does one make money paying that much?
I think I know the 4 unit you are referring to. Is it in Redford?
I've looked at quite a few small multis around the metro area and honestly most of them don't make any sense at all! I think some markets are much better in the sfr space than the multis and I think we are in one of those.
The only multi's that make sense are the larger complexes...not the 2-4 units.
No. I don't invest in redford. The larger complexes are 600k And Up And I Just Don't Have The Capital to Get Something Like That
Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 4 posts · 3 votes
12y
Deano - The program is worth it if you actually take the time to apply the techniques, learn the formulas and study your market. Ben gives a great over view and then detailed information of the process. Having him in your back pocket isn't that bad either. Bonus - listen to his podcasts (which it sounds like you already have) and then read the Modules, the accent makes it that much better.
Ben has answered all of my (dumb & kinda smart) questions, he is not condescending and really cares about your success as an investor. Just don't ask him about mutual funds, and you will be fine.
Real Estate Broker · Cypress, TX · Member since 2013 · 822 posts · 468 votes
12y
@Daniel Guillermo "Does Ben's program show you how to locate the properties?"
Ben's program actually spends quite a bit of time teaching what to look for in both the market and the property, and what he considers to be an ideal area and type of property. However, he will not tell you which city or street to go look at :)
Rental Property Investor · Phoenix/Lima, Arizona/OH · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
12y
@Deano Vulcano
So - I woke up at 6:30 today and did what always do; checked my email. @Deblin McKnight is asking a question - it was like half of a page long; AGAIN! Wholly crap this girl is gonna succeed - flat out! Persistence + brains!!!
I advised her to call me next time. I can talk in transit while sitting down to type out an email is tough. Besides - I like people.
Hopefully this answers your question from earlier in the thread concerning phone calls :)
Why do you need capital? There's all kinds of capital out there. You have the brains - let someone else in the game by bringing the capital. Ask Deblin - she is doing it right now as we speak!
3 differences between me and gurus - I don't promise success; I tell them how hard this is - flat out; and cost of CFFU will not require that you mortgage your house.
I teach people to think Bill. I share perspective. What they do or do not do with that is on them... But, a statement of truth is this: money follows perspective and skills - is that a fair statement Bill?
Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
12y
I agree, it will come with knowledge and skills, not just RE skills, social skills, the skill of persuasion, analytical skills and intuition, that's really tough to teach.
That's what a teacher is suppose to do, make the student think, if you can then great, making them think in the right direction is a real trick, especially in RE.
I'm not going to hammer away at guru stuff in this thread, if people are interested in my opinions they aren't hard to find. I don't think you're a full fledged guru type Ben, tendencies at times, LOL, but seems you have the formal education to teach and the basics of RE, more than most.
I don't know what your program costs, would you just state that? That would tell me a lot. And, is it one program or does it escalate to other levels and if so what's the end cost?
I've never heard anyone complain about your product or you. I can't agree entirely with some of your stuff in the pod casts, don't remember specifics, but I don't recall hitting the ceiling either. From me, that's pretty good, you know my issue is that people don't get the basics, some never do, their thinking begins to fall into a mechanical process rather than really understanding matters that could make their business much easier.
I don't endorse anyone on BP, no offense, as close as I've gotten is with some compliance and note types. Can't believe a mentor/coach here on BP sent me a request to endorse him the other day having never done business with him, so I had to deny that automated request.....he should have known better.
There are a few on BP that mentor and I'm fine with that, I don't go in hammering them on just anything, I realize it's a business. I suppose that it's sort of endorsement by omission if I don't drill through their stuff, I could, but I don't.
I like the fact that you don't push the pie in the sky stuff, that really gets me going, how to get rich with a strategy. You also contribute to BP without pitching your stuff constantly, I like that too. :)
Rental Property Investor · Phoenix/Lima, Arizona/OH · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
12y
Well - for not being an endorsement this is the best qualified endorsement I could ever hope for @Bill Gulley :)
CFFU retails for $295. It's a one-time cost. There are no other "follow-up" products and there is no up-sell. All materials are delivered immediately via an electronic down-load. I've never not answered an email or a phone call - period; let alone from someone who purchases the CFFU. There is a 30-day money-back guarantee - no questions asked.
Skill of persuasion - as in Art of Persuasion. Those old Greeks had it figured out, didn't they Bill? Numbers are about 10% of what we do - I'd like to think that I teach the other 90% :)
Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
12y
I have no issue with a $300 hoopla session or whatever, just check compliance issues and not any crazy stuff for just the sake of it, you know I like dark blue suits with black shoes. LOL Glad to hear about the money back, no questions asked! :)
Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 4 posts · 3 votes
12y
@Bill Gulley No fluff, no frills, and not a lot of fancy. Just a lot of helpful information, and Ben has responded to a ton of my questions. He's awesome, but his wife is WAY cooler.
Investor · Hendersonville, NC · Member since 2013 · 754 posts · 281 votes
7y
I'm happy to hear he isn't condescending and that he cares about the little guy's success. And I'm also happy to hear that his program is useful and comprehensive. He does, however, seem self-assured to the point of being eyebrow-raising, based on a podcast I am listening to today in fact. He seems pretty competent and experienced, I will give him that.
Deano - The program is worth it if you actually take the time to apply the techniques, learn the formulas and study your market. Ben gives a great over view and then detailed information of the process. Having him in your back pocket isn't that bad either. Bonus - listen to his podcasts (which it sounds like you already have) and then read the Modules, the accent makes it that much better.
Ben has answered all of my (dumb & kinda smart) questions, he is not condescending and really cares about your success as an investor. Just don't ask him about mutual funds, and you will be fine.