My first possible deal --- Please help me evaluate this 4 plex

My first possible deal --- Please help me evaluate this 4 plex

Real Estate Investor · Member since 2011 · 7 posts · 2 votes

Hell Evereyone,

So here is my first possible deal.

It's a newly built 4-plex (2007).

Each unit is 3 bed 2 bath. In excellent condition.

Each is renting for 1020 currently. It is located in a small up and coming suberb of Dallas. Great schools and amenities.

Asking is 375,000. Was on the market for 420 last year but didn't sell.

Here are the numbers I have so far(this would be bought using cash:

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Purchase Price: $375,000.00
Down Payment $-
Closing Costs $9,375.00
Loan Costs $-
(-) 2% Seller $7,500.00
Initial Investment $1,875.00

All Figure Are Annual
Rental Income $48,960.00
Less Vacancy $2,448.00
Gross Rental Income $46,512.00

Operating Expenses
Real Estate Taxes $9,972.00
Property Insurance $2,000.00
Property Management $2,558.16
Repairs & Maintenance $1,000.00
HOA $-
Utilities
G&E $300.00
Trash $1,116.00
Water $-
P.I.D. Fee $-
Yard Care $2,700.00
Mortgage Insurance $-
Accounting $100.00
Advertising $60.00

Misc. $350.00
Total Operating Expenses $20,156.16

Net Operating Income $26,355.84
Annual Debt Service

Cash Flow Before Taxes $26,355.84

Please let me know what your thoughts are. If you would like more info please feel free to ask.

Thank you very much!

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Property Manager · Dublin, OH · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 291 votes
15y

Hello Peter,

I would take min 10% CAP rate for my investments, so if I take your calculation, price of this property should be not more than $265,000.

Now I know, someone says location, location for an investment, I have an other point of view. If you really have $375k you can buy in some other areas 20 units or more, with better cash flow like this propertie. But you pays your money and you takes your chances.

For me its a no go flag.

-Uwe

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  • Property Manager · Dublin, OH · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 291 votes
    15y

    Hello Peter,

    I would take min 10% CAP rate for my investments, so if I take your calculation, price of this property should be not more than $265,000.

    Now I know, someone says location, location for an investment, I have an other point of view. If you really have $375k you can buy in some other areas 20 units or more, with better cash flow like this propertie. But you pays your money and you takes your chances.

    For me its a no go flag.

    -Uwe

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    15y

    Your estimated $26K per year is probably a bit on the high side, but not too far off. Even so, $26K return on an investment of $377K is only 6.9%. Too low in my book. Given what others have posted about Dallas, I'd think you could do much better.

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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    15y

    Peter I have been meaning to call you.

    With that kind of cash I wouldn't purchase such a property.You can land a much larger complex with that kind of cash and create more upside and returns.

    Asking price never means anything except where the seller is at in their mind for pricing OR they got a broker/agent who over listed the property and doesn't know how to calculate the true numbers.

    We will talk soon.

  • Real Estate Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 268 votes
    15y

    I plugged in your numbers in my spreadsheet and based on 50% rule and 20% down, I see cash flow before tax about $200/mo

  • Real Estate Investor · Agoura Hills, CA · Member since 2010 · 55 posts · 66 votes
    14y

    Did you ever move forward with any of these deals? We would still like to talk to you and catch up. JGB :idea:

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2011 · 242 posts · 61 votes
    14y

    I also think this isn't a good deal. It's tough to get a decent return when buying all cash. It's better to get some financing. If you want to be really conservative put 50% down. The rates are too good to pass up. Even supposedly high rates like 7% are great IMO.

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