Third Project Complete - How'd we do?

Third Project Complete - How'd we do?

Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes

Our third project was another single-family home in Havre de Grace, MD. This home was originally listed at $115,000, but we were able to negotiate the price down to $81,900 (about $85,500 after taxes, fees, and realtor costs). The house is a 3/2 with about 1700 square feet of living space.

Our rehab budget was about $50,000, including $12,000 for two bathroom remodels, $5,000 for a kitchen remodel, $9,000 for a new roof, $10,000 for HVAC and plumbing, with the remainder for carpeting, flooring, painting, and appliances.  So, all told, we expected to be in for about $138k. The ARV was expected to be $185-200k. Monthly rent was expected to be $1400-1600.

Here are some before pictures:

How did we do?

Well, the rehab went over budget. However, given our last single-family rehab went 90% over budget, this was easy. A gas leak, hidden plumbing leaks, and a failed sump pump put us over budget. The biggest extra expense though was having to replace the flooring throughout the first floor. The laminate that we hoped could be saved, could not. We also made the decision to replace the flooring in the downstairs bathroom because we weren't happy with how it looked after we cleaned it. We made some sacrifices, forgoing a planned jack-and-jill bathroom upstairs, some leveling of the concrete basement floor, and ceramic tile floors and surrounds in the two bathrooms. The changes worried us and made us concerned that we would not be able to achieve the ARV we hoped for and might end up with more trapped cash in the property.

Between the extra costs and our compromised design, we ended up over budget by a little more than $2,000.  That's unfortunate, but only about a 4% overrun.  We lost a couple of months between the gas leak delaying getting the HVAC operational (which pushed back paint and flooring) and the flu coming in and taking out the entire crew.  Fortunately, having paid cash for the property, our holding costs were pretty minimal, so the delay didn't cost us much cash out-of-pocket and had the benefit of pushing us out into prime rental territory.  The place was rented after being on the market for two weeks and the tenant began occupancy on June 1.

Some after pictures:

The Cash-In Numbers

Purchase Price: $81,900

Closing Costs on Purchase: $3,600

Rehab: $51,700

Holding Costs (Utilities): $500

Total Costs: $137,700

Financing

We are closing a loan with a local credit union. Because the property is owned by our LLC, it is a commercial real estate loan. It is a 5/5-ARM with 30-year amortization at 5.5% interest. Total closing costs and taxes on the loan are expected to be about $5,000 (still waiting for the final numbers). The lender was only willing to finance $130,000 or 75% of the appraised value, whichever is less. In the future, I think they will be willing to go up to our actual cash outlays, but because this is our first loan with them, they did not want to go above $130,000. There initial over was for $125,000, but we were able to negotiate the higher loan amount due to the strong credit and income of the LLC's members. Assuming a $130,000 loan amount, the payment will be $738 per month for the first five years.

Appraisal

We got the results of the appraisal this week.  We had hoped for $185,000-200,000.  It wasn't what we hoped for though... it was better! The appraisal came in at $204,000.  That will allow us to finance the full $130,000.  That leaves us with about $12,700 invested to control an asset worth over $200,000.

Rental Numbers

We signed a two-year lease at $1,475 per month.  The tenants are a nice couple, and the wife is a school teacher at the nearby elementary school who can walk to work.  We expect they will stay the two full years, avoiding the need to find a new tenant right away.  We pay our property manager 8% per month plus the first month's rent.

Rent: $1,475

Management Fee: $118

Mortgage: $738

Insurance: $95

Taxes: $150

Vacancy: $120

Maintenance/CapEx: $150

Net Cash Flow: $104 per month

Cash-on-Cash Return: 10%

All-and-all, I call this a rousing success.  What say you?

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Investor 路 Greenville, SC 路 Member since 2016 路 5k+ posts 路 13k+ votes
10y

Very nice post and thanks for all the granular detail. What a massive return on the purchase and rehab. Curious if you consider the post-rehab ROE when deciding whether or not to hold or sell the property. When you have such a successful value add, ROI looks great but post-rehab ROE looks odd. Another way to view it is whether or not you would purchase a $200k house with $1500/mth rent. Food for thought. Congratulations on the success!

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  • Baltimore City, MD 路 Member since 2015 路 30 posts 路 9 votes
    10y

    Omg! Congrats!!! I need a success like this. Can't wait to hear more stories from you and your team! 馃榾馃榾馃榾

  • Investor 路 Greenville, SC 路 Member since 2016 路 5k+ posts 路 13k+ votes
    10y

    Very nice post and thanks for all the granular detail. What a massive return on the purchase and rehab. Curious if you consider the post-rehab ROE when deciding whether or not to hold or sell the property. When you have such a successful value add, ROI looks great but post-rehab ROE looks odd. Another way to view it is whether or not you would purchase a $200k house with $1500/mth rent. Food for thought. Congratulations on the success!

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y
    Mike, the LLC is owned by two couples and is intended to produce long-term passive income in 15-to-20 years. This is largely a retirement play for us. As such, we select our properties with an eye toward holding the property long-term. We intend to keep are all-in-cost below 75% of the ARV so that we can finance as much money back out of the property as possible. Both of the couples have relatively high income from employment, such that any sale would be taxed at the highest marginal rates plus MD state tax of nearly 8%. If you consider that we'd net about $55k or so after selling and then factor in nearly 50% for taxes, you end up looking at about a $29k after-tax gain. That's pretty good, but we feel like it runs counter to our goal of increasing the number of properties we hold and generating increasing amounts of passive income long-term. The $29k will be returned to us through equity paydown and cash flow, and we can largely defer taxes. That's not to say that we won't decide to sell off some of our holdings and do 1031 exchange into bigger properties or multi-families down the road.
  • Investor 路 Greenville, SC 路 Member since 2016 路 5k+ posts 路 13k+ votes
    10y

    Good stuff. There are many factors that come into play with the sell or hold decision after rehab. Having that equity and low loan balance rolling towards retirement is nice...heck it's nice any time if you don't need it to keep the REI pace accelerated.

    I track IRR through the rehab and hold period to disposition and it's easy to ignore the post-rehab ROE and have the rehab IRR carry the transaction, if that makes sense. I try to view them as separate transactions to ensure that I don't hold properties that would not meet my purchase threshold but its also easier to hold a renovated, stable, known property. I have an apartment; so, I'd 1031 to avoid the tax consequences mentioned above.

    I've posed this question a few times on BP and have not received much traction.  Maybe I am over thinking it and should just be grateful of the high IRRs and good cash flow.  Thanks for helping me think it though.  Well done on this transaction...it's just brilliant.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y
    Mike, I don't think you're wrong. I think when we get to the point where the unlocked equity could be reinvested in something producing a greater return, we may very well do so. Right now, we don't have a need for the capital and we're picky about the properties we choose to invest in. We're happy investing in-state and avoiding areas like Baltimore City where we think the issues outweigh potential better returns.
  • Suitland, MD 路 Member since 2016 路 49 posts 路 21 votes
    10y

    @Stephen Chittenden the "after" looks great! An inspiration for all.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @J.T. Littlejohn:

    @Stephen Chittenden the "after" looks great! An inspiration for all.

     Thanks.  We are pretty pleased with how it came out, even after we had to make some compromises.

  • Bulawayo, Zimbabwe 路 Member since 2015 路 1k+ posts 路 253 votes
    10y

    congrats on the rehab.looks great @Stephen Chittenden

  • NYC, NY 路 Member since 2016 路 617 posts 路 456 votes
    10y

    Looks great.  Nicely done.  Congrats. 

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y

    @Karen O. 

    @Bhekizwe M.

    Thanks to you both! 

  • Investor 路 Everett, WA 路 Member since 2016 路 38 posts 路 9 votes
    10y

    Strong work.  Thanks for sharing.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y

    Thanks, @Julie L.

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    Rock Star Extraordinaire 路 Northeast, TN 路 Member since 2015 路 10k+ posts 路 16k+ votes
    10y

    Very nice work! I think you picked nice colors and finishes! If you are local, you might even consider foregoing the PM considering the full-on rehab you did and the quality of tenants. My experience is that rehabbed units require far less need for a PM than non-rehabbed units, and considering you expect the tenants to be stable, you may be sending that money out for nothing. Some of my units last year had zero calls and were fully occupied. 

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  • Rental Property Investor 路 Gambrills, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 372 posts 路 88 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @JD Martin:

    Very nice work! I think you picked nice colors and finishes! If you are local, you might even consider foregoing the PM considering the full-on rehab you did and the quality of tenants. My experience is that rehabbed units require far less need for a PM than non-rehabbed units, and considering you expect the tenants to be stable, you may be sending that money out for nothing. Some of my units last year had zero calls and were fully occupied. 

    The property is located about 60-75 minutes away. It's in the same area as all six of our units (my wife and I own a rental townhome individually and our LLC owns two single family homes and a triplex). The same property manager handles all of our units. All of the owners work full-time+ in our day jobs and don't really have any time to dedicate to handling these. It's worth it to us to have someone else do it. As we continue to grow though, I hope to be able to reduce our fee below the 8% we pay now.

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