Subject To vs Wraps Similarities and Differences

Subject To vs Wraps Similarities and Differences

Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Subject To and Wraps are very similar and yet, very different.

Subject To & Wraps share these characteristics

  1. You are taking over payment of the mortgage and transferring the property into your name
  2. You become the owner
  3. The loan does not get paid off
  4. The lender can and sometimes will call the Due on Sale
  5. You have to have money or credit to solve a Due on Sale call
  6. They are used when someone doesn’t have much equity and doesn’t want to pay a real estate agent
  7. They are used when the seller wants to sell fast
  8. They are used when the property isn't really a good candidate for the MLS because of the condition of the property
  9. They are used when It’s a unique property and it’s hard to find comps
  10. They are used when it’s a distressed situation that needs to be resolved
  11. They are used when the monthly payment is below market rate (that means it cash flows)
  12. They are used when the seller wants to avoid the hassles of listing

Subject To & Wraps Differences

  1. In a Subject To, NO new mortgage is created.
  2. In a Wrap you ARE creating a new mortgage that “Wraps” around ( includes) the existing mortgage. (just like a 2nd but shows up as one loan that has two payments each month)
  3. You do these when the seller has a lot of equity and will do a “carry back” instead of requiring cash at closing.
  4. In a Subject To, There is NO safety for the seller. They CAN NOT foreclose if you stop making payments,
  5. In a Wrap There is safety for the seller. They CAN foreclose if you stop making payments,
  6. It Costs a little more ($1500) to do a Wrap because a mortgage has to be created
  7. You become the owner in either situation
  8. In a Subject To you send the payment to the lender (servicer)
  9. In a Wrap, you send the payment to the lender (servicer) AND you send a payment to the seller.
  10. There is a “Mirror” Wrap and there is a “Carry Back” Wrap.
  11. A Mirror Wrap is taking over the exact payment. If the payment is $1,234,56 your payment is $1,234.56.
  12. A Carry back Wrap is taking over the exact payment plus the “Carry Back” amount to the seller. If the payment is $1,234,56 your #1 payment is $1,234.56 to the lender and if you did a Carry back of $50,000 @ 4% your Carry Back payment is $238,71 to the seller
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  • Member since 2026 · 119 posts · 44 votes
    3mo

    Insurance is where both get tricky in practice. Existing policy is in the seller's name. You take title but coverage doesn't automatically follow. Claim happens and the named insured no longer owns the property, carrier can deny it. That gap is easier to miss than the due on sale risk.

    • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      3mo
      Quote from @Carson Nordmann:

      Insurance is where both get tricky in practice. Existing policy is in the seller's name. You take title but coverage doesn't automatically follow. Claim happens and the named insured no longer owns the property, carrier can deny it. That gap is easier to miss than the due on sale risk.

      You HAVE to transfer insurance into your name. If someone is teaching that it is optional or to be avoided, they are being foolish. (I'm not saying that is what you are advocating, I am saying that if a buyer isn't aware of how to get that done, don't buy that way) and they are probably making other serious mistakes as well. There is a popular "guru" on you tube that wrongly teaches that kind of thing, sounds good until things happen.
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