The wholesale deal that netted $266,000

The wholesale deal that netted $266,000

Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2011 · 509 posts · 134 votes

Some of you already know the story, but for those who don’t I wanted to share how this deal came about.

As a brand new acquisition company located in Arizona, this was our second contract we ever locked up, the first one being a 8k referral deal from an estate attorney. This monster deal came from Hubzu.com while my business partner was scrolling through properties located in Phoenix. It was an 8,000sqft house on 30,000sqft lot on the hottest street in Arcadia (Phoenix). We expected bidding to reach 1.2-1.3m, however no one bid on the property ad we ended up locking it up at $893,000…..or $110/sqft, mind you finished product in that area is currently selling for $350-450/sqft.

Risk #1 -putting down 15k non-refundable EMD, which Is hardly ever part of a wholesalers business model, but it was a smoking deal we figured we couldn't lose. We immediately identify a buyer at $1,175,000, contractors out of California. This particular transaction was assigned to a Hubzu transaction coordinator based out of the Middle East, so communication happened 1-day at a time due to the time difference. The property had an existing 100k mechanics lien that was guaranteed to be wiped once we took possession. Long story short, this deal was in escrow for over 2 months trying to pull together all the necessary documents from the bank who was selling the property. When time came to close, the Hubzu transaction coordinator informed us the bank refused to sign our double close addendum.

Risk #2 – Taking down the property to make the deal happen, leveraging 80% @ 12% interest only payments which were around $7,100 per month. But why not? We were closing with these California buyers. 3-days before we were to close on the property, the CA buyers cancel due to financing

Disaster #1- . Turns out there was an open C-file with title, meaning they were daisy chaining this deal to another buyer. Our contract with the CA was ambiguous regarding whether their 20k EMD was refundable or non-refundable, so we were required to put this case in the hands of our attorneys….we ended up setline for 10k.

Everyone wanted a piece of this deal because there was so much built-in equity. Just about every wholesaler in town had this deal on their website marked up anywhere from 50k-200k. We held this deal for over 2 months, paying over 20k in interest payments before we identified a buyer. The buyer came from another wholesaler that we met at Sean Terrys annual wholesaler conference here in Glendale Arizona. The deal was at 1,175,000, 75k EMD contingent upon acceptable appraisal (or 10 days), 45-day close. Reason for the long close- the buyers were developers out of Canada, and had to move their CND over to USD, and pay exchange rates on top of that, which was a time intensive process.

Disaster #2 -Appraisal comes back well below their acquisition price, and the buyers try to use that as leverage to knock 100k off the purchase price… we settle at 1,150,000. The transaction is on cruise control at this point.

Disaster #3- Me and my partner are driving down to Hollywood to celebrate new years, 2 days before closing. She gets a call from the buyers stating the property got broken into, and a majority of the finishes were stolen, and they wish to push back the closing date. Things couldn’t have gone worst. A couple hours pass, and the buyers decided to proceed with the transaction, and are still on schedule to fund the deal on the COE date. New years eve, we see the incoming bank wire coming into our account….this thing finally closes.

Overall the transaction took over 4-months, tied up a TON of our working capital, and was an emotional roller coaster. Would we do it again? Absolutely.  

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  • Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 91 posts · 49 votes
    10y

    Impressive. Congrats!

  • Wholesaler · Apache Junction, AZ · Member since 2016 · 29 posts · 9 votes
    10y
    Amazing! I'd love to connect and talk some time!
  • Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2015 · 42 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    Wow, what an amazing find. Glad you were able to hang on to that roller coaster. High risk, but high reward!

  • Investor · Avondale, AZ · Member since 2015 · 36 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    Jared now you are graduated as a wholesaler in the hard way, this experience gives you a lot experience and profit congratulations.. I was a bidder on this property on hubzu ending 2nd place... 

  • Real Estate Investor · Lansdowne, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 656 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Jared Vidales:

    Some of you already know the story, but for those who don’t I wanted to share how this deal came about.

    As a brand new acquisition company located in Arizona, this was our second contract we ever locked up, the first one being a 8k referral deal from an estate attorney. This monster deal came from Hubzu.com while my business partner was scrolling through properties located in Phoenix. It was an 8,000sqft house on 30,000sqft lot on the hottest street in Arcadia (Phoenix). We expected bidding to reach 1.2-1.3m, however no one bid on the property ad we ended up locking it up at $893,000…..or $110/sqft, mind you finished product in that area is currently selling for $350-450/sqft.

    Risk #1 -putting down 15k non-refundable EMD, which Is hardly ever part of a wholesalers business model, but it was a smoking deal we figured we couldn't lose. We immediately identify a buyer at $1,175,000, contractors out of California. This particular transaction was assigned to a Hubzu transaction coordinator based out of the Middle East, so communication happened 1-day at a time due to the time difference. The property had an existing 100k mechanics lien that was guaranteed to be wiped once we took possession. Long story short, this deal was in escrow for over 2 months trying to pull together all the necessary documents from the bank who was selling the property. When time came to close, the Hubzu transaction coordinator informed us the bank refused to sign our double close addendum.

    Risk #2 – Taking down the property to make the deal happen, leveraging 80% @ 12% interest only payments which were around $7,100 per month. But why not? We were closing with these California buyers. 3-days before we were to close on the property, the CA buyers cancel due to financing

    Disaster #1- . Turns out there was an open C-file with title, meaning they were daisy chaining this deal to another buyer. Our contract with the CA was ambiguous regarding whether their 20k EMD was refundable or non-refundable, so we were required to put this case in the hands of our attorneys….we ended up setline for 10k.

    Everyone wanted a piece of this deal because there was so much built-in equity. Just about every wholesaler in town had this deal on their website marked up anywhere from 50k-200k. We held this deal for over 2 months, paying over 20k in interest payments before we identified a buyer. The buyer came from another wholesaler that we met at Sean Terrys annual wholesaler conference here in Glendale Arizona. The deal was at 1,175,000, 75k EMD contingent upon acceptable appraisal (or 10 days), 45-day close. Reason for the long close- the buyers were developers out of Canada, and had to move their CND over to USD, and pay exchange rates on top of that, which was a time intensive process.

    Disaster #2 -Appraisal comes back well below their acquisition price, and the buyers try to use that as leverage to knock 100k off the purchase price… we settle at 1,150,000. The transaction is on cruise control at this point.

    Disaster #3- Me and my partner are driving down to Hollywood to celebrate new years, 2 days before closing. She gets a call from the buyers stating the property got broken into, and a majority of the finishes were stolen, and they wish to push back the closing date. Things couldn’t have gone worst. A couple hours pass, and the buyers decided to proceed with the transaction, and are still on schedule to fund the deal on the COE date. New years eve, we see the incoming bank wire coming into our account….this thing finally closes.

    Overall the transaction took over 4-months, tied up a TON of our working capital, and was an emotional roller coaster. Would we do it again? Absolutely.  

    Excellent and thanks a bunch for sharing. Now prepare for the haters to come shortly to attack you... it's late but give it a few, :-).... seriously [smh]. Not long ago someone secured approximately $50K wholesaler's profit. I can't recall if it was gross or net. They were taken thru the trenches with probates encumbrances etc and that deal took longer then usual also. A successful close and the investor although congratulated by most came to BP with full details and shared...and ...well ...envy can harshly effect some more then others.  Again, thanks for posting. What a rush. Now top that, huh. :-)

    Kudos,

    Mary

  • Mike DmuchoskiPro Member
    Realtor · Mesa, AZ · Member since 2014 · 158 posts · 56 votes
    10y

    Impressive story. Took a lot of cojones! I'm sure the confidence you've gained from that transaction will take you far 

  • Pacific Northwest · Member since 2015 · 20 posts · 6 votes
    10y

    Nicely done!  

  • Real Estate Professional · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2015 · 27 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    wow I cant wait till I have my story with your help !!!!!

  • Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2011 · 509 posts · 134 votes
    10y

    @Jesse Burrell @Danielle Crowell

    These are my partners who helped close the deal. Feel free to reach out to them.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2015 · 173 posts · 46 votes
    10y

    @Jared Vidales,

    Congratulations! You're really lucky to have gotten something interesting off Hubzu, but other readers shouldn't expectsimilar results :-) I've bid on many properties in multiple states with Hubzu, cheap ones and an expensive one (similar to yours) in Hawaii, and while it happens often that nobody else bids, they always (in my cases) have high reserves that are close to market. One particular property I've been bidding for 3 months over and over with no competition, and they still don't lower the reserve. Doesn't make any sense to me. I've had much better luck with Homesearch, while Auction.com always has other bidders and bids mostly reach market price.

    Jean

  • Investor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2011 · 509 posts · 134 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Jean G.:

    @Jared Vidales,

    Congratulations! You're really lucky to have gotten something interesting off Hubzu, but other readers shouldn't expectsimilar results :-) I've bid on many properties in multiple states with Hubzu, cheap ones and an expensive one (similar to yours) in Hawaii, and while it happens often that nobody else bids, they always (in my cases) have high reserves that are close to market. One particular property I've been bidding for 3 months over and over with no competition, and they still don't lower the reserve. Doesn't make any sense to me. I've had much better luck with Homesearch, while Auction.com always has other bidders and bids mostly reach market price.

    Jean

     We were very surprised there was no reserve. Got very very luck. Someone at Hubzu got fired that day. 

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Victorville, CA · Member since 2008 · 8 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    Good job!  I can't figure out Hubzu yet.  The reserves are too high and when they are not met, they come back on the market with a higher opening bid for another 5 to 7 days.  I guess they think they can get more money for them if the bidding period is long.  But, they eventually sell after months on the market.  

  • Wholesaler · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2015 · 61 posts · 43 votes
    10y

    Great share and congratulations, Jared!

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