I have two homes should I refinace one to pay the other off?

I have two homes should I refinace one to pay the other off?

Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes

My company laid every one off.  I got a new position with my company in a different state and will take a 10K cut in pay.  I have one duplex and my current residence.  Im trying to keep my cost low so if I cant rent my current residence I can still cover all my bills.  My duplex is worth 175K - 165K I owe 100K on it.  My duplex loan is for 130K and I pay $890 per month that includes my property tax of $2150 and insurance of $624 a year my duplex doesn't make money it just breaks even (I've never had a problem renting it out). My current residence is worth 115K and I owe 75K on it.  My current residence loan is for 100K and I pay $580 a month that includes my property tax of $856 and insurance of $872 a year.  Total mortgage payment $1470 per month. If I refinance my duplex for 165K and put 10K out of pocket and pay off my current residence my payment will be $1120 per month at 5% interest that will save me $354 a month.  Should I do this and is there any benefit to having the home paid off that I'm missing? if I do this and everything goes bad is there a way to protect the house that is paid off? Do you see any thing I haven't considered or should consider?

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Lender · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
10y

I would not do this.  For a few reasons.  1.)  You are unlikely to find a lender that will give you a 100% cash-out refinance on your duplex (using the low estimate of value at $165,000 and your desire to borrower $165,000 = 100% ltv)  2.  Your $10,000 cash out of pocket is better left in the bank during your transition...cash is king... it does more for you than it does paying down a mortgage right now, even if you could get one.  3.)  Paying the house off, eliminates your interest deduction on that house, which you will likely miss right now.  4.)  Not knowing the interest rates on these loans now, I can't say for sure, but it is likely that you will just be moving your debt stack around and when you factor in the costs to refinance and your lost mortgage interest deduction (which will give you higher taxes on your lower earnings), you likely will not be saving as much as you think...(if anything at all) for a number of years.

Hope this helps...hang in there...change is only bad if you let it be.

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  • Developer · Boise, ID · Member since 2009 · 168 posts · 112 votes
    10y

    What are the interest rates on your loans? 

  • Lender · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    10y
    It depends on your rate and term on both properties. 5% also sounds like a pretty high rate considering what current rates are.
  • Lender · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    I would not do this.  For a few reasons.  1.)  You are unlikely to find a lender that will give you a 100% cash-out refinance on your duplex (using the low estimate of value at $165,000 and your desire to borrower $165,000 = 100% ltv)  2.  Your $10,000 cash out of pocket is better left in the bank during your transition...cash is king... it does more for you than it does paying down a mortgage right now, even if you could get one.  3.)  Paying the house off, eliminates your interest deduction on that house, which you will likely miss right now.  4.)  Not knowing the interest rates on these loans now, I can't say for sure, but it is likely that you will just be moving your debt stack around and when you factor in the costs to refinance and your lost mortgage interest deduction (which will give you higher taxes on your lower earnings), you likely will not be saving as much as you think...(if anything at all) for a number of years.

    Hope this helps...hang in there...change is only bad if you let it be.

  • Software Developer · Vidor, TX · Member since 2015 · 922 posts · 639 votes
    10y

    Are you single, married?  Have you considered renting both and using a PM while out of state and using some of that 10k for reserves for both properties?

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    duplex 4.375% and current residence 3.75%

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    opps current residence 4% married 4 kids

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    @Charlie Fitzgerald you are right I talked to a lender I have used in the past and he says that they would only loan 80% of value.  Which would mean I could get about 40K out of the duplex.  He suggested I might look into a Heloc.  I could come up with the 35K out of pocket, but that would leave me without money to put down on a new house when I move.

  • Lender · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Aaron Marshall  I really think your best bet is to leave it all alone...get settled in your new position, conserve cash, and re-visit this in 12 months.

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    looked into heloc at a credit union they told me they would only loan on a primary residence

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    @Charlie Fitzgerald After calling and talking to several loan brokers and running the numbers.  I agree with your assessment.  Thanks for the advise.

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    10y

    If your duplex is not making any money why would you not just sell it.  Guaranteed at some point in time you are going to have a lengthy vacancy or major repair and risk losing it to the bank.

  • Lender · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    my pleasure @Aaron Marshall  It'll all work out...

  • Cortez, CO · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    10y

    well I'm not putting any money in my pocket its making the payments, and I've never had any problem renting it Ive had it for 8 years and put only a few hrs total into renting it. Big repairs yep had them new water and sewer lines and a new furnace hopefully no more. my wife is of the same opinion of selling it and pay off our current residence.  I lean toward holding on to it because it is on the corner of the second busiest street in town and since Ive had it it has been rezoned as mixed use. They have built a medical plaza two houses down ( I think they bought 6 houses to build it) and Ive had one Optometrist contact me about buying it I told him 200K and never heard back from him.  So I think if I just hold on eventually that corner will be worth more.  What would be the tax implications if I sold it to pay off my current residence.

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