Investing in Rochester, NY Buy and Hold Difficulties

Investing in Rochester, NY Buy and Hold Difficulties

Rochester, NY · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes

Good Afternoon BiggerPockets Community,

Happy New Year!  I am new to real estate investing, I have been diligently analyzing deals in Rochester, NY and I am having difficulty finding any deals that the "math works".  High property/school taxes in A and B neighborhoods increase the monthly expenses above and beyond any positive cashflow.  Even with a high initial equity it appears to me that its a bad investment.  Here is an example that I hope you all might comment on and give me some feedback.

4 bedroom, 1 1/2 bath.  1876 sqft.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/calculators/shared/6...

Maybe I am putting in incorrect figures, but any help or comments would be very appreciated.

Thank you all for your time and effort.

Best Regards,

Shane

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Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 23 posts · 10 votes
9y

Deals that make financial sense in the City of Rochester, NY are very hard to find and have been for the past year or more.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2015 · 17 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    The taxes are much higher in the suburbs of Rochester. The taxes in Pittsford are really high. Have you considered looking in some of the up-and-coming areas in the city? The lower property taxes make it much easier to cash flow. 

  • Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2015 · 499 posts · 169 votes
    9y

    Depending on what you are looking for I would look into the City.   If you are looking for cash flow I would consider the city of Rochester. You can purchase a property for 40-50k that makes $900 a month.  It is a lot more risky, but if you can find the right tenants, it can be a game changer. 

  • Rochester, NY · Member since 2013 · 101 posts · 48 votes
    9y

    It would be very difficult to find a property that will cash flow in Pittsford, Fairport, Penfield, Webster, Brighton or Victor. Taxes in NY are very high, so you need to find rents that come close to 2% of the purchase price to really see a return that makes it worth it. Most people who rent in those towns lived in the properties and then for whatever reason made it a rental. I'm sure you could find a few deals in those towns, but be prepared to wait. 

    My suggestion is to look at the B- to C areas in the city. Right now even there deals are becoming hard to find, but they still exist. 

    We just locked up a SFH in the city for an owner for $28k that should cashflow over 15%, and that is with property management.

  • Rochester, NY · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Thank you Everyone for the ideas and information!

    What areas do you consider up and coming in and near Rochester?  Also what areas are B- to C?  

    Steve or Martin can you post the numbers from either of those deals so that I can have an example to look at?   

  • Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2015 · 499 posts · 169 votes
    9y

    Here is an example of one I recently purchased.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bryfmkgUyFQWZ3QJyCrOQQlc4_sXpVj8YBECCO_dH0Q/edit#gid=1478436848

  • Rochester, NY · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Martin,

    Thank you! I sent you a request for permission to open the google doc you sent

  • Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 23 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    Deals that make financial sense in the City of Rochester, NY are very hard to find and have been for the past year or more.

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