cash/6 months Refi mortgage, paying closing cost twice?

cash/6 months Refi mortgage, paying closing cost twice?

Investor · Lusby, MD · Member since 2015 · 30 posts · 4 votes

My strategy has been buy foreclosed properties that need work pay cash for them (using HELOC on personal home). Put in sweat equity to fix them up and I rent/maintain them myself. In 6 months I get a cash out 30 year mortgage for 80% appraised value. So far the houses have appraised well where I was able to get all my money back and pay off my HELOC. Now I have an investment property where I have none of my own money involved in. Even if I can do this and put under 10% of personal money into it at the end it still beats putting down 20% on investment property. I have done this 3 times so far.

Doing this method I am basically paying closing cost twice (once on original cash purchase, and again in 6 months when I refi).  Is there anyway to delay or not have to pay all the closing costs twice? (recording fees, etc....)  

Thanks

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  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    @Kevin McDonald

    Unfortunately the answer if the end game is conventional money and that should be the end game for the first 10 properties.

    Stephanie

  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Kevin McDonald:

    My strategy has been buy foreclosed properties that need work pay cash for them (using HELOC on personal home). Put in sweat equity to fix them up and I rent/maintain them myself. In 6 months I get a cash out 30 year mortgage for 80% appraised value. So far the houses have appraised well where I was able to get all my money back and pay off my HELOC. Now I have an investment property where I have none of my own money involved in. Even if I can do this and put under 10% of personal money into it at the end it still beats putting down 20% on investment property. I have done this 3 times so far.

    Doing this method I am basically paying closing cost twice (once on original cash purchase, and again in 6 months when I refi).  Is there anyway to delay or not have to pay all the closing costs twice? (recording fees, etc....)  

    Thanks

     You could bake it into the initial offer. This might be a conversation between you and the listing agent.

    Let's say it's a $500k property.

    "Mr Listing Agent, I'm flexible and open to working with you on the timeline. I'd be happy to offer $500k, if you give me time to get a mortgage (and/or reno mortgage if it's a reno scenario), or I can offer $477k if you'd like me to close in two weeks with cash. Up to you. Which would you prefer?"

    Closing costs obviously aren't going to be $23k, so you win either way. And now rather than the listing agent deciding between multiple buyers, you've hopefully got them deciding between just the two options that you have presented. 

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