Buying short sale and bank-owned

Buying short sale and bank-owned

Madison, WI · Member since 2019 · 21 posts · 12 votes

Hello!

We are looking at purchasing our first investment property - a duplex. After unsuccessful two attempts to buy a duplex in our budget around $300k with FHA loan, we thought to turn to a short sale, foreclosure, and bank-owned properties - that are very price effective.

Both - our lender and real estate agent - are talking us out of it saying that in most cases we have to have full price cash on hands, otherwise, we may spend money on inspections and not get the property at the end. They are strongly suggesting that we stick with regular sales, buy duplex or two, have rental income, save and then look at the short-sales and foreclosures with cash on hands.  Please, note we are not going to the auction. 

After some googling we read that it is the same sale where we put some money down and take the loan to pay the rest, the only difference is that we buy a place "as is." We would really appreciate an explanation of how these kind of sales work in the real world.  Just in case, if conditions are different for different states we are in WI, Dane County.  

Many thanks! 

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Investor · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 955 votes
7y

Most as-is properties are probably not in a good condition enough to qualify for a FHA loan.

However, look into a fha 203k loan. If your current lender is not experienced enough, find one that is familiar with it.

Full price? maybe. Cash on hand, no. They're right though about the inspections and appraisals. They're probably trying to hold your hand a little. Especially for your first property. 

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  • Investor · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 955 votes
    7y

    Most as-is properties are probably not in a good condition enough to qualify for a FHA loan.

    However, look into a fha 203k loan. If your current lender is not experienced enough, find one that is familiar with it.

    Full price? maybe. Cash on hand, no. They're right though about the inspections and appraisals. They're probably trying to hold your hand a little. Especially for your first property. 

  • Madison, WI · Member since 2019 · 21 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    Thank you, Chris, for bringing up 203k loan! I will bring it up if we find the right "as is" property. 

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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Elena Koyun it will depend on the market and the seller. Generally they want strong contracts. They want to know the deal will go through.  So a buyer expecting a contingency for financing is making a less competitive offer.

    Short sales can take a long time to process - like a year sometimes. 

    Hard money lenders are a common way of financing fixer upper properties. They refinancing after the property is up and running.

  • Attorney · Northbrook, IL · Member since 2017 · 719 posts · 549 votes
    7y

    @Elena Koyun @Chris T. Chris is correct, FHA is probably not the way to go with short sales. It can be done but you are going down a very difficult road. FHA is going to do their own inspection of the property, and if they find issues the seller isn't in a position to do repairs.

  • China, ME · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    @Elena Koyun  I'd advise steering clear of short sales unless you literally don't care when you close and you're prepared to come up with extra cash on short notice if a junior lien holder demands more than was initially agreed to.

    Example from the last short sale I did:  1st lien was BofA, second was Chase.  

    The short sale price was agreed to by all parties.  We did the home inspection and appraisal and were moving forward.  However, as we got close to closing, BofA pushed the closing date 5 times.  And right before the finish line, Chase popped up and demanded an extra $5,500 to release their lien.

    Luckily, my buyers were not selling their home.  They were going to rent it out after they moved, so closing date wasn't an issue.  They also felt that the deal was still good enough and brought $5,500 in certified funds to closing.  That $5,500 couldn't be part of their home loan, because BofA, still coming up short, would have taken it.

    It was 9 months from accepted offer to closing.  I've heard of them going out to 3 years.

    So in limited cases, there are still deals to be had at short sales.  For most buyers - especially non-investor buyers - I recommend staying away.

  • Madison, WI · Member since 2019 · 21 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    @Bob Floss II thank you for FHA differences explanation!

  • Madison, WI · Member since 2019 · 21 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    @Charlie MacPherson Thank you for the example! I think now that we should wait till we have our own place and then, when we do not care about the time, look into the short sale. 

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