Questions about family owned Apartment building in NYC

Questions about family owned Apartment building in NYC

Jeff NortonPro Member
Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 36 posts · 6 votes

I am part owner of a 8 unit apartment building with a storefront in Greenwich Village NYC.  The other owners are all family members-Aunts, 1st and 2nd cousins etc.  We are in the process of organizing the operating agreement and possible sale of the building.  We are also trying to get one of the vacant apartments rented in order to improve the income produced as there are a lot of repairs to be made.  Some family members do not think it is a good idea to rent out any vacant apartment before sale.  Their reasoning is that a new owner would like to have the building vacant in order to make his/her own upgrades/renovations.     That can be true if we wanted to sell at a much lower price.  However, I was under the impression that the building's value is linked to the amount of income it can produce.  The higher the income the higher the value .  One can use the Net Operating Income divided by the Cap Rate to get the value (Maximum Purchase Price).   I am looking for any advice if I am either on the right track or off by a mile.  Your feedback either way would help in this crazy process.  Thank You BP community!!

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  • Rental Property Investor · New York City, NY · Member since 2017 · 493 posts · 386 votes
    7y

    @Jeff Norton

    Yes this is true for Commercial Real Estate. The better the income will improve ROI & Cap Rate it will help sales price. SFH rentals different story comps drive more the sales price..

    Once you’re ready I know a very good Commercial Broker that I highly recommend

  • Jeff NortonPro Member
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    Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 36 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    Thank you Paul!     I will definitely keep you in mind when we get the building in order.   Thank you for your reply 

  • Specialist · Huntingdon, PA · Member since 2018 · 162 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Raul R. is of course correct.

    Fundamentally,

    Value = NOI divided by Market Cap Rate

    NOI = Revenue minus Expenses

    Apartments are valued accordingly

  • Rental Property Investor · Greenwich, CT · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Jeff Norton, you're right. Your family members are wrong. They don't understand how commercial real estate is valued. Get on board with a good commercial agent, so they can "hear it from the pro."

  • Jeff NortonPro Member
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    Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 36 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    Thank you Amy and Jaysen! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Glen Rock, NJ · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Jeff Norton

    Perhaps educating your family members a bit will help. Get a quality commercial broker (ideally someone who is well familiar with Greenwich Village and ask for their recommendation. Have them speak with your partners  (= family members) directly.

  • Jeff NortonPro Member
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    Howell, NJ · Member since 2015 · 36 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    Thank you Alina! That seems like a good route to take as you and Jaysen are recommending the same approach.  All the best!

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