Mortgage rates: are they really as low as they advertise on web

Mortgage rates: are they really as low as they advertise on web

Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Aimloan, Navy Federal Credit Union, etc. 

They say they have rates from 3.25 to 3.35 % based on my 830 credit score, 20% down, etc. on their websites "rate quotes". I wonder though once they do a hard pull on my credit, will it really be more like 3.5 to 3.75%? The super low rates are the bait to get you to apply with them? Also I've read mixed reviews with places like AIMloan and Navy Federal. Lot's of people say the process with them is atrocious, more and more documents, day after day, switching people on them, all kinds of nonsense.

My broker of 10+ years is able to get me 3.75% on a 30 year fixed conventional right now. He has been easy to work with, is knowledgeable about the industry and has sent me pre-approval letters while on vacation...I don't know if it's really worth bothering with these other places. It's been no issue building my portfolio with him and I'm hesitant to change this variable.

I did get a sweet deal with one company once due to it being an auction deal and you had to use a specific lender (Nationstar I think it was) and I had to write a letter about why I have so many houses, prove that I was moving because of x, y and z, etc. Never had issues like this with him.

What say ye? I don't think it's worth the risk for the .25-.5% rate difference.

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Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
6y

@Mary Mitchell

Keeping more cash in my wallet.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2012 · 874 posts · 648 votes
    6y

    @Jack B. sign up for daily rate quotes from Alliant Credit Union.   They will auto e-mail you the current rate and points.  For example, today’s email had

    30 Year Fixed Rate

    • 3.125% with 1.42 discount points and $0.00 rebate
    • 3.25% with 0.67 discount points and $0.00 rebate
    • 3.375% with 0.17 discount points and $0.00 rebate
    • 3.5% with 0.0 discount points and $993.30 rebate

    To me, that’s the closest we laypeople are ever going to get to a rate sheet.  Good luck!

  • Real Estate Investor · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2012 · 874 posts · 648 votes
    6y

    Follow up....we locked at exactly the rate and price disclosed in the daily email.

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    6y

    I actually prefer to increase the rate to get a lender credit.  

  • Real Estate Investor · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2012 · 874 posts · 648 votes
    6y

    I guess there’s a place for both strategies.  At 0.125 points for a 0.125 rate decrease (as we were offered once), I look at it as “I can pay an eighth today, or I can pay an eighth a year for as long as I have the mortgage.”  

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

    I actually prefer to increase the rate to get a lender credit.  

     What is your reasoning?

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    6y

    @Mary Mitchell

    Keeping more cash in my wallet.

  • Rental Property Investor · Portland OR · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    @Russell Brazil that is pretty simple :) does it matter to you your intended hold period ? 

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Mary M.:

    @Russell Brazil that is pretty simple :) does it matter to you your intended hold period ? 

     Not really. Nearly every property I buy I want to get a credit somehow....whether thats raising the interest rate to get a lender credit or raising the price to get a seller credit. Less out of pocket costs now can be $10k or more for me to save....the incremental increase in the payment is typically not very significant to me.

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