Highest Use of Capital for a Young Investor

Highest Use of Capital for a Young Investor

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Hello all!  I'm a young, enthusiastic investor from the Flint Saginaw area of Michigan, and am in negotiations for an off market, turnkey 4-Plex about an hour from me.  The owner, who is older and owns it outright, wants $90k for his investment, and is reluctant to finance it, fearing he won't be around long enough to see the money.   He wants me to go through bank financing. $90k is an incredible price for the Quad, but, with bank financing wanting 25% down ($22.5k), closing costs and having money in reserves, it would unfortunately consume all the capital I have.

Being young and of still limited capital, I naturally want the highest and best use of my cash.  I have the opportunity to House Hack another 4-Plex in my home down (which I'm also pursuing) and "wholetail" with my father, both of which wouldn't consume all I have.

I respect this man's time, and I don't want to leave him hanging.  But, in the same breath, I don't want to pass up the opportunity to create steady wealth and a strong future for my family.  Is there a creative way I can get into this deal?  What would you do if you were in my shoes?

I appreciate your time for reading this and helping me out.  Best of luck to all of you :)

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Rental Property Investor · Collingswood, NJ · Member since 2016 · 282 posts · 116 votes
6y

@Kevin Roth Maybe you can find a partner or a private money lender? Or maybe you can ask the seller for a concession for the closing costs? I don’t know anything about your market or the property but that sounds like a great deal for a 4 unit!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Collingswood, NJ · Member since 2016 · 282 posts · 116 votes
    6y

    @Kevin Roth Maybe you can find a partner or a private money lender? Or maybe you can ask the seller for a concession for the closing costs? I don’t know anything about your market or the property but that sounds like a great deal for a 4 unit!

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    Real Estate Consultant · Clarkston, MI · Member since 2009 · 864 posts · 350 votes
    6y

    @Kevin Zolea i was thinking the same type of thing - or find a private lender who will lend most or all of the 80k until you can refinance it (likely 3-6 months after purchase)  @Kevin Roth would something like that work for you?   AND if so also ask the owner to do a short term loan on it and  then refinance it.

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  • Member since 2019 · 248 posts · 248 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Roth:

    Hello all!  I'm a young, enthusiastic investor from the Flint Saginaw area of Michigan, and am in negotiations for an off market, turnkey 4-Plex about an hour from me.  The owner, who is older and owns it outright, wants $90k for his investment, and is reluctant to finance it, fearing he won't be around long enough to see the money.   He wants me to go through bank financing. $90k is an incredible price for the Quad, but, with bank financing wanting 25% down ($22.5k), closing costs and having money in reserves, it would unfortunately consume all the capital I have.

    Being young and of still limited capital, I naturally want the highest and best use of my cash.  I have the opportunity to House Hack another 4-Plex in my home down (which I'm also pursuing) and "wholetail" with my father, both of which wouldn't consume all I have.

    I respect this man's time, and I don't want to leave him hanging.  But, in the same breath, I don't want to pass up the opportunity to create steady wealth and a strong future for my family.  Is there a creative way I can get into this deal?  What would you do if you were in my shoes?

    I appreciate your time for reading this and helping me out.  Best of luck to all of you :)

     I love how you outlined your thought process!!  my 2 cents is - Don't tie up all your capital in that property.. its an hour away and low capital will stunt your growth.  One thing I had to learn early in my career was don't fall in love with a property! Give the guy the best offer for YOU.  10% down land contract or whatever and let him decide.  I've had guys tell me they wouldn't do certain things then call me back a month later begging for the deal.  Best of luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · Lansing, MI · Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    Personally, I'd say go for it if the numbers make sense and if you have a steady flow of income. I used up almost all of my capital to buy my first property but I was in a position to save $2k a month from my job so by the time I actually closed I had a bit more money and then within a few months after that I had plenty again. Worst case scenario, you end up needing a few thousand dollars before you build that back up again and then you have to go borrow from a relative or take on a some credit card debt. But I think that is unlikely to happen right away before you can build up your reserves if you check out the property (maybe bring along someone experienced too) and don't see anything concerning that will need immediate repair. Either way, figure out which investment is best for you and make sure you have a couple back-up plans for worse case scenarios! Like the other investors said, make an offer that is right for you not for the seller! Good luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ and PA · Member since 2019 · 206 posts · 105 votes
    6y

    @Kevin Roth, here is a solution for you. Similar to @Wendy Patton's suggestion, but you don't actually have to wait 3-6 months. If you buy with cash, there is no required waiting period to get a mortgage after the purchase (google the "delayed financing" exception). With this rule, you can borrow 70-75% of the appraised value, but not more than the price you paid.

    You indicated this is an awesome deal, so let's say the property appraises for more than $120k. You privately borrow, say $80k, and put in $10k of your own money. Purchase the property with that cash. Then, after the purchase, you obtain a $90k mortgage -- to pay back the private loan and get your own cash back. You now have an income-producing quad with none of your own money invested (except for closing costs).

  • Investor · San Francisco Bay Area · Member since 2019 · 119 posts · 79 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Gary Parilis:

    @Kevin Roth, here is a solution for you. Similar to @Wendy Patton's suggestion, but you don't actually have to wait 3-6 months. If you buy with cash, there is no required waiting period to get a mortgage after the purchase (google the "delayed financing" exception). With this rule, you can borrow 70-75% of the appraised value, but not more than the price you paid.

    You indicated this is an awesome deal, so let's say the property appraises for more than $120k. You privately borrow, say $80k, and put in $10k of your own money. Purchase the property with that cash. Then, after the purchase, you obtain a $90k mortgage -- to pay back the private loan and get your own cash back. You now have an income-producing quad with none of your own money invested (except for closing costs).

    GOLD! Wow! I'm in a different situation but this might help me. I have capital but won't qualify for a mortgage due to DTI. I might go this route

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2019 · 512 posts · 301 votes
    6y

    @Kevin Roth that’s what the seller wants? You will need to raise more capital. The initial question is one we would all like answers too but you can’t force anything, especially numbers, so if you take a loan with the risk of running out of cash, you’ll be without a paddle up ***** creek and your only luck is depending on someone else. Does sound like your passing up a good deal. If your are truly passionate, you will rise to a level where you will be making good deals, big deals, life changing deals, put the mature card in the game and trust your hard enough of a worker or smart enough to know one day another good deal will appear that only you will see. Same goes for stock trading! Good luck!

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