Tactics for buying houses at small discounts (90% FMV)

Tactics for buying houses at small discounts (90% FMV)

Investor · Toledo, OH · Member since 2012 · 292 posts · 35 votes

Hi;

I'm targeting landlords for lease option deals. Not all of them want to give up their income stream, so for a seller who wants the ongoing rental income I'm planning to help them buy another house.

Do you guys know any strategies for buying a house at 90% of retail value (I've heard this being called "retail net")? The standard wholesaling model at 70% ARV and below is VERY difficult now in So Cal, but I don't need that big a discount anyways. I've heard you can door knock MLS listings to offer "retail net" but that seems like it could be a breach of contract for the seller

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Will BarnardPro Member
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Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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Buying a home at 90% of retail does not offer enough room for a rehab flip. So you must implement a different strategy like landlording. If it can cash flow at that price, then it may make sense. If you can buy creatively with owner financing, sub2, or similar, it can be a deal for you. Master lease options would be another option.

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  • J ScottPro Member
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    Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2008 · 18k+ posts · 17k+ votes
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    In my area, 90% of ARV is as easy as making offers on every MLS property. You'll probably get 5% of sellers who will take that without much negotiation.

    My area may not be typical, of course...

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    Buying a home at 90% of retail does not offer enough room for a rehab flip. So you must implement a different strategy like landlording. If it can cash flow at that price, then it may make sense. If you can buy creatively with owner financing, sub2, or similar, it can be a deal for you. Master lease options would be another option.

  • Investor · Toledo, OH · Member since 2012 · 292 posts · 35 votes
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    Thanks Will; I actually don't need much of a deal, just enough to get a seller to be happy preserving their income stream.

  • Rental Property Investor · North Huntingdon, PA · Member since 2011 · 64 posts · 20 votes
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    I'm not familiar with retail net, but you will surely attract sellers if you're willing to pay near top dollar. It sounds like you need to target properties which have below market rents. Base your offer on the current (low) rents. Once you have the property under control raise those rents and enjoy the cash flow!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 380 votes
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    If your goal is to buy directly from sellers, I certainly wouldn't advise soliciting MLS listings (unless you're willing to let the agent keep their commission). If you do go this route, you might start blasting the agents with a well thought out pitch that describes your model thoroughly. 90% of them won't understand what you're talking about, and of the 10% that do, very few will actually want to work with you, but if you have nothing better to do than I would say go for it.

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    I agree with avoiding agents on deals like this,nylon need to find the sellers yourself or frustrated landlords and work creative deals out with them. Marketing to agents would likely be a waste of time like Jake pointed out.

  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2009 · 171 posts · 46 votes
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    Sean D if you approach owners whose listings have just expired I would imagine you'd have great success. If the home was listed at market value, the seller is saving 6% by cutting out the realtors. You're over halfway to your 10% goal so negotiating 4% off should be pretty easy for most homes.

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    Originally posted by Bill W.:
    Sean D if you approach owners whose listings have just expired I would imagine you'd have great success. If the home was listed at market value, the seller is saving 6% by cutting out the realtors. You're over halfway to your 10% goal so negotiating 4% off should be pretty easy for most homes.
    Possibly, keep in mind that everybody and their Mothers are doing this so competition for expired listings is fierce, including other agents marketing to same.
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