Refi rates and seasoning period question

Refi rates and seasoning period question

Investor · Somerville, MA · Member since 2017 · 191 posts · 204 votes

Hey I'm an investor in the KCMO - Kansas City MO, Independence MO markets and wanted to see what people are getting for Refi rates?  Any recommendations on banks or lenders?  

Also what is the seasoning period these days?  6 months still?  And Is that from the time of the property close or from the time property being tenanted?  if the property is already tenanted is that waved or is that not the way it works?  Thanks so much for any advice for this refi newbie.  Very appreciate any info!!! 

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Julee FelsmanPro Member
Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
6y

Hi @Adam Sankowski!

Rates depend on a variety of variables (mainly: credit scores, property type, loan-to-value ratio, cash back or not), so it's pretty hard to compare notes without that detail to be sure you're comparing apples to apples.

If you just want to refinance what you owe with no more than an incidental amount of cash back (2% of loan or $2k), there is no seasoning period. 

If you want to take more cash back there is a 6 month seasoning period.

There is an exception to the seasoning period, however. If you paid cash for a property, it is free of liens when you apply for the loan and you can document where the funds for the purchase came from, you can get a cash back refinance immediately after closing.

Happy to answer other questions... and if you want an idea of rates for your specific situation, PM me.

Cheers!

Julee

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  • Julee FelsmanPro Member
    Lender · Portland, OR · Member since 2018 · 163 posts · 136 votes
    6y

    Hi @Adam Sankowski!

    Rates depend on a variety of variables (mainly: credit scores, property type, loan-to-value ratio, cash back or not), so it's pretty hard to compare notes without that detail to be sure you're comparing apples to apples.

    If you just want to refinance what you owe with no more than an incidental amount of cash back (2% of loan or $2k), there is no seasoning period. 

    If you want to take more cash back there is a 6 month seasoning period.

    There is an exception to the seasoning period, however. If you paid cash for a property, it is free of liens when you apply for the loan and you can document where the funds for the purchase came from, you can get a cash back refinance immediately after closing.

    Happy to answer other questions... and if you want an idea of rates for your specific situation, PM me.

    Cheers!

    Julee

  • Investor · NV and CA · Member since 2016 · 374 posts · 227 votes
    6y

    @Adam Sankowski- Just did a refi and got 4% on a conventional Fannie / Freddie with 75% LTV in KC area.

  • Investor · Somerville, MA · Member since 2017 · 191 posts · 204 votes
    6y

    @Ryan Fox that’s awesome. Is this refi’ing our of an investment property aka brrrr? If so, Could you share which bank?!? Feel free to DM me if that’s better?

  • Whitney HuttenPro Member
    Investor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    @Adam Sankowski Are you trying to refi conventionally or commercially?  Conventionally, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac guidelines are 6 months for a cashout or upon tenancy for a rate and term refi.  Commercially, it's typically when the property is tenanted or ~90 days (and banks vary on this). Here is a guide to help you out.

  • Real Estate Broker · Kansas City Metro · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Ryan Fox:

    @Adam Sankowski- Just did a refi and got 4% on a conventional Fannie / Freddie with 75% LTV in KC area.

     Hey who did you end up going with?

  • Investor · Somerville, MA · Member since 2017 · 191 posts · 204 votes
    6y

    Hey @Alex Olson. I'm still looking and getting info, I'm open to any suggestions! 

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