HELOC approved then transfer to LLC?

HELOC approved then transfer to LLC?

Member since 2019 · 55 posts · 14 votes

Hello Fellow Investor, I have a rental property with some equity in it, can I get the HELOC from it approved then transfer it to the LLC? or transfer it to LLC then go do the HELOC? Any recommendation? Thanks

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Kerry BairdPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
4y

Not very many actually do write HELOCs on LLC properties. There may be more luck with a BLOC, or business line of credit. My list is for HELOCs on rental houses.

CMG Financial in Idaho will do 100% on owner occupied.

Try local community bank or credit union for investment properties. PenFed FCU, TD Bank and US Bank are my best recommendations.

I've gleaned these lenders from the kind people on BP. I have used PenFed and TD Bank for HELOCs on investment property. Post back if you find another lender who serves you well, and I will add them to my list and pay it forward. These were largely sourced pre-CV19, so eat the fish and spit out the bones.

The DTI percentage range varies by lender, and is less than what you will find for an owner occupied property, due to lender risk. While qualifying for a HELOC is dependent on your home equity and your credit score, good or excellent credit makes it easier to qualify. A good average to shoot for is 620 or higher. Plus, the better your credit score, the better your interest rate.


Ridge Lending All in One, first position HELOC

AFCU does 80% LTV on NOO. Utah

Americafirst 80% LTV on noo 65% LTV Utah

Arvest Bank AR, OK, AL, MO

Aven…not on investment properties.

Bancorp South, TX Lines of Credit on free and clear houses

Bank of Southern California, CA

Bank of West (BNP Paribas) 60% LTV CA, AZ

BB&T will loan on a rental portfolio

BBVA, now PNC

Bellwether Community Credit Union, NH and MA 85% to 100%, draw 10 yrs

BMO Harris, 3 HELOCs to 70% LTV

Boeing Employee credit union

Cal Coast Credit Union, CA

Citizens Bank -MiN, only in-state. Kyle Potswald

Citizens, first position HELOC

CMG Financial 70% LTV

Consolidated CCU, high LTV NOO LOC, OR, WA

East West Bank, up to 60% LTV with "no docs” San Fran CA area

Figure 80% on a rental, not in LLC

Finance of America, 95% CLTV, second home only, 680 FICO, not TX

FirstBank CO and AZ 75% LTV

First Florida Credit Union FL

First Commonwealth

First Midwest, IL up to 90% Chicago area

First Tech Federal. Western states. Up to 80% if FICO is over 780, no appraisal under $250k value.

First Republic - CA

Fremont Bank, CA

Fulton Bank, PA, NJ

GFA Federal Credit Union 10 yr draw, 10 yr repay, MA, NH

Granite State CU, NH 90-100%

Great Lakes Credit Union, Chicago area IL

GTE Financial, Tampa, Sarasota area FL w 2 yrs tax history on property

Hanscom FCU, TX

HSBC 70%, for premier clients only. FL, NY, MD, CA, VA, NJ,

Horizon Bank, Kalamazoo MI

Huntington MI 75% LTV 5 yr IO product available. Someone reported 80%…need confirmation

Hurst Lending and Insurance Investment property HELOC in Texas. No seasoning. Bridge, portfolio, foreign national and other specialty loan products.

Key Bank, flexible lender, HELOCs on second
homes and rental properties. 90% LTV on primary. FL, CO, OH, UT, ID

Merchants Bank MN See Pavel Ushakov

Mountain America CU Utah, ID, MT, NV, AZ, NM. 85% LTV, promo rate of 1.99%. Can refi an existing mortgage to a shorter term “Mini Mortgage.”

Navy Federal 80% LTV

Norway Savings Bank, Maine

Omaha Mortgage

PenFed - max 3 other properties, including primary. 80% LTV, prime + 1%, <4 properties

Quorum Federal Credit Union 80% LTV, owned by LLC is OK. Very flexible lender. NY. 5 year draw, IO for 5 yrs and PI for 10 year repayment period.

Red Canoe Credit Union, WA OR

Regions- yes HELOC but no LOC

River Bank & Trust, AL

SCCU Florida 80% LTV, 2.75% first year promo, not LLC

SECU NC 65% LTV rate 2.75% Oct 2021

Signature Federal Credit Union 75% LTV (100% on primary residence), VA

Silvergate Bank, CA

Sound CU "non-owner occupied HELOC, capped at $150K and interest rates are prime + 2%, 3% or 4%, based on credit, not to exceed 70% ltv.” CT

S&T Bank, PA

TCF Bank, FL, GA

TD Bank 75% line with FICO about 740. Up to 4 properties.

Torrey Pines Bank, see also Western Alliance Bank Corp. Commercial real estate solutions for developers, home builders.

Troy Bank & Trust, AL

Trustco Bank, FL, NY, NJ, MA, VT

Trustmark Bank, Texas. Call it a LOC rather than a HELOC

Union Bank, specializes in noo HELOC. KCMO, NE

Union Bank, MUFG.

Upstate Bank in Rochester NY, LOC up to 80%

US Bank 80%. “Business equity line of credit: Use Real Estate as Equity” up to $500k, interest only. gather your business and personal tax returns, financial statements, articles of incorporation and other legal documents.”

Vectra Bank - Colo

Veritex, Texas HELOC

WAFd Bank. Origination fee 1% or $700. Can be in an LLC, max 75% LTV. WA, OR, UT, NV, ID, NM, AZ, TX. All-in-One construction loan, too.

WellsFargo 60% LTV Up to 5 properties.

Workers Credit Union, MA 80-100%

WSFS...up to 70% on rental

Zions Bank, Utah

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  • Member since 2021 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    4y

    I'm a novice property owner/investor, but if you get the LLC first, you're unlikely to find a traditional lender that will give you a HELOC (I've heard that smaller banks sometimes work with more experienced investors to provide HELOCS). They tend to offer them only for properties owned by people not businesses (if your business went bankrupt, they may take second seat to other debtors and they are "limited" in their ability to go after your personal property to recoup their losses). But, the simpler thing to do is call your potential lenders and ask them what they would offer you given these scenarios. Generally, those using the BRRRR method (and not using private money) would avoid putting the property in an LLC until they finished the rehab, rent, and refinance stages. Once the building is stable and secured with a long-term loan that allowed you to get your equity out as cash, only then would you prepare to put the property in an LLC (of course, even then, the bank might not be happy about you doing this while you still owe them, so you'd need to be cautious about the bank demanding full payment. But that seems rare).

  • Kerry BairdPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    I understand Quorum FCU will do HELOCs on properties held in an LLC. I have a long list of lenders that will write a HELOC on a single family rental house.

  • Member since 2019 · 55 posts · 14 votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Kerry Baird:

    I understand Quorum FCU will do HELOCs on properties held in an LLC. I have a long list of lenders that will write a HELOC on a single family rental house.

    Hello Kerry, Can you share your list of lenders that do HELOC for properties hold on LLC?

    Thanks

  • Kerry BairdPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Not very many actually do write HELOCs on LLC properties. There may be more luck with a BLOC, or business line of credit. My list is for HELOCs on rental houses.

    CMG Financial in Idaho will do 100% on owner occupied.

    Try local community bank or credit union for investment properties. PenFed FCU, TD Bank and US Bank are my best recommendations.

    I've gleaned these lenders from the kind people on BP. I have used PenFed and TD Bank for HELOCs on investment property. Post back if you find another lender who serves you well, and I will add them to my list and pay it forward. These were largely sourced pre-CV19, so eat the fish and spit out the bones.

    The DTI percentage range varies by lender, and is less than what you will find for an owner occupied property, due to lender risk. While qualifying for a HELOC is dependent on your home equity and your credit score, good or excellent credit makes it easier to qualify. A good average to shoot for is 620 or higher. Plus, the better your credit score, the better your interest rate.


    Ridge Lending All in One, first position HELOC

    AFCU does 80% LTV on NOO. Utah

    Americafirst 80% LTV on noo 65% LTV Utah

    Arvest Bank AR, OK, AL, MO

    Aven…not on investment properties.

    Bancorp South, TX Lines of Credit on free and clear houses

    Bank of Southern California, CA

    Bank of West (BNP Paribas) 60% LTV CA, AZ

    BB&T will loan on a rental portfolio

    BBVA, now PNC

    Bellwether Community Credit Union, NH and MA 85% to 100%, draw 10 yrs

    BMO Harris, 3 HELOCs to 70% LTV

    Boeing Employee credit union

    Cal Coast Credit Union, CA

    Citizens Bank -MiN, only in-state. Kyle Potswald

    Citizens, first position HELOC

    CMG Financial 70% LTV

    Consolidated CCU, high LTV NOO LOC, OR, WA

    East West Bank, up to 60% LTV with "no docs” San Fran CA area

    Figure 80% on a rental, not in LLC

    Finance of America, 95% CLTV, second home only, 680 FICO, not TX

    FirstBank CO and AZ 75% LTV

    First Florida Credit Union FL

    First Commonwealth

    First Midwest, IL up to 90% Chicago area

    First Tech Federal. Western states. Up to 80% if FICO is over 780, no appraisal under $250k value.

    First Republic - CA

    Fremont Bank, CA

    Fulton Bank, PA, NJ

    GFA Federal Credit Union 10 yr draw, 10 yr repay, MA, NH

    Granite State CU, NH 90-100%

    Great Lakes Credit Union, Chicago area IL

    GTE Financial, Tampa, Sarasota area FL w 2 yrs tax history on property

    Hanscom FCU, TX

    HSBC 70%, for premier clients only. FL, NY, MD, CA, VA, NJ,

    Horizon Bank, Kalamazoo MI

    Huntington MI 75% LTV 5 yr IO product available. Someone reported 80%…need confirmation

    Hurst Lending and Insurance Investment property HELOC in Texas. No seasoning. Bridge, portfolio, foreign national and other specialty loan products.

    Key Bank, flexible lender, HELOCs on second
    homes and rental properties. 90% LTV on primary. FL, CO, OH, UT, ID

    Merchants Bank MN See Pavel Ushakov

    Mountain America CU Utah, ID, MT, NV, AZ, NM. 85% LTV, promo rate of 1.99%. Can refi an existing mortgage to a shorter term “Mini Mortgage.”

    Navy Federal 80% LTV

    Norway Savings Bank, Maine

    Omaha Mortgage

    PenFed - max 3 other properties, including primary. 80% LTV, prime + 1%, <4 properties

    Quorum Federal Credit Union 80% LTV, owned by LLC is OK. Very flexible lender. NY. 5 year draw, IO for 5 yrs and PI for 10 year repayment period.

    Red Canoe Credit Union, WA OR

    Regions- yes HELOC but no LOC

    River Bank & Trust, AL

    SCCU Florida 80% LTV, 2.75% first year promo, not LLC

    SECU NC 65% LTV rate 2.75% Oct 2021

    Signature Federal Credit Union 75% LTV (100% on primary residence), VA

    Silvergate Bank, CA

    Sound CU "non-owner occupied HELOC, capped at $150K and interest rates are prime + 2%, 3% or 4%, based on credit, not to exceed 70% ltv.” CT

    S&T Bank, PA

    TCF Bank, FL, GA

    TD Bank 75% line with FICO about 740. Up to 4 properties.

    Torrey Pines Bank, see also Western Alliance Bank Corp. Commercial real estate solutions for developers, home builders.

    Troy Bank & Trust, AL

    Trustco Bank, FL, NY, NJ, MA, VT

    Trustmark Bank, Texas. Call it a LOC rather than a HELOC

    Union Bank, specializes in noo HELOC. KCMO, NE

    Union Bank, MUFG.

    Upstate Bank in Rochester NY, LOC up to 80%

    US Bank 80%. “Business equity line of credit: Use Real Estate as Equity” up to $500k, interest only. gather your business and personal tax returns, financial statements, articles of incorporation and other legal documents.”

    Vectra Bank - Colo

    Veritex, Texas HELOC

    WAFd Bank. Origination fee 1% or $700. Can be in an LLC, max 75% LTV. WA, OR, UT, NV, ID, NM, AZ, TX. All-in-One construction loan, too.

    WellsFargo 60% LTV Up to 5 properties.

    Workers Credit Union, MA 80-100%

    WSFS...up to 70% on rental

    Zions Bank, Utah

  • USA · Member since 2014 · 120 posts · 102 votes
    4y

    Wow quite the list.

    I didn't know you could get a HELOC on an investment property.

    Florida Credit Union can go all the way to 100% on owner occupied, what I don't know is what happens if you later move and rent out.

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