Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2015 · 267 posts · 76 votes
I'm thinking about offering a lease to an applicant using a strategy done by a local PM company in my area. I would like everyone's opinion if this seems like a reasonable and/or smart way and/or legal way to handle pre-paid rent. This single family home is in Indiana.
Property's advertised rent amount: $750/month
Minimum Rental Qualification in the ad: gross income $3,000/month (4x the rent)
This applicant's income: $2680 to $2700/month
Applicant doesn't meet income requirement. If tenant is willing to pay 1 month pre-paid rent ( $750) in additional to the first month's rent ($750) and security deposit at move in, then this pre-paid rent can be spread out over 11 months to lower their monthly obligation from $750/month to $681.81 so they can meet or almost meet the rental qualification of income being 4X the rent.
It's an alternative to asking for additional security deposit.
What do you think? Pros / Cons? Here are the details ...
Total Obligation- 1 year lease - 12 x $750 = $9,000
Paid at move in (2 months rent) - $1,500
Remaining rent obligation: $7,500
$7,500 / 11 months = $681.81 per month for 11 months
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
4y
@Tricia O'Brien why did you make the qualification of 4 x rent. Typically its 3 x. If you want higher just stick with it and wait. If you think lower is ok change it and tenant qualifies end of story. However you would typically just set the qualifications and stick with it.
@Tricia O'Brien why did you make the qualification of 4 x rent. Typically its 3 x. If you want higher just stick with it and wait. If you think lower is ok change it and tenant qualifies end of story. However you would typically just set the qualifications and stick with it.
I also require 4x rent, since the over-the-top "tenant protection" laws in NYS took away many other mitigating factors for tenant screening (we cannot collect more then 1 month's deposit, cannot screen for eviction history, etc.).
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
4y
@Wesley W. I prefer 3 x because its sufficient and in my experience that means they aren't as likely to leave due to the buying that house so less turnover. I see how you could see it differently depending on your rental product.
Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2015 · 267 posts · 76 votes
4y
@Colleen F. I made the qualification 4x rent because the utilities for the house usually run $280/mo to $400/mo and I thought that if a household only makes $2250/mo (3x rent) in gross income, then their rent plus utilities could easily be more than 50% of their net income. Could be too much for people to handle and pay rent in full and pay on time every month.
@Tricia O'Brien I would agree with the people saying set your standard and stick to it. The times I have gotten in trouble have been when I have compromised my standards. I live in Indiana and have been investing here for 16 years. What market are you in?
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
4y
@Tricia O'Brien that makes sense to use 4x. Typically when I say 3x it is for units with much lower utilities then that. I always see people saying more income is better and I have found that more income = turnover. There is a sweet spot income wise where they move in and plan to stay a couple years.
@Tricia O'Brien why did you make the qualification of 4 x rent. Typically its 3 x. If you want higher just stick with it and wait. If you think lower is ok change it and tenant qualifies end of story. However you would typically just set the qualifications and stick with it.
I also require 4x rent, since the over-the-top "tenant protection" laws in NYS took away many other mitigating factors for tenant screening (we cannot collect more then 1 month's deposit, cannot screen for eviction history, etc.).
4x rent, and higher rent for those in dangerous territory. Absolutely.