Trenton NJ

Trenton NJ

Edison, NJ · Member since 2012 · 28 posts · 2 votes

Searched through biggerpockets and was surprised to see very little discussion on Trenton NJ.

I am seeing the 2% rule all over the place here and am tempted to make the jump.

Anyone on BP investing here? Advice?

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Rental Property Investor · Yardley, PA · Member since 2012 · 436 posts · 198 votes
10y
Sandro, 

There are a few different areas in Trenton, and they all appeal to different types of investors.  Most people like Chambersburg because it is very desirable for tenants, it is still at a good price point and the rents are Strong.   For 60k you can get a house that's REALLY nice and big that would rent for $1,200.  

Then there is Franklin Park and Villa Park, which is desirable, but with a lot of owner occupied and retail buyers driving up prices for investors.  A house would get the same rent as Chamberburg but cost up to 100k.

Then there is Chestnut Park.  It is pretty good except for the corner of Home and Jersey Streets which is plagued with dilapidated houses and board ups.  I really nice house in this area would go for about 50-60k and rent for $1,100.  I have noticed that a lot of the houses in Chestnut Park have stupid high taxes, so you need to keep an eye out on that.  

Wilber Section has some areas that are very run down and chock full of board ups.  There are some people betting on the area because it is so close to the train station and the redevelopment that has been coming along with it.  Rents are a little less than the rents in the rest of Trenton, but the prices are closer to 30k-40k for a nice house.  

West Trenton has some areas with HUGE old awesome houses.  Some of those areas are beat up and destroyed with boards ups and the like, other areas still really nice there, and there is also some redevelopment over there.  Because the houses are so big a lot of landlords are doing well with high rents from section 8.  Prices and rents vary greatly in West Trenton.

East Trenton is very popular among investors.   The rents are pretty strong and the taxes are really low.  A nice house can be purchased for 40k and rent for $1000 with low taxes to sweeten the return.  There are a few streets and intersection to watch in East Trenton as far as ease of finding tenants, but a lot of stuff seems to be happening in East Trenton for the better right now.  

South Trenton has a lot of new retail house buyers coming in.  It is near the Waterfront Park and Arena.  There is some great new construction housing in South Trenton, and very desirable for both tenants and homeowners.   The prices seem to be creeping up quickly in South Trenton.  60k can get you a really nice house in South Trenton and rents can be $1,200 plus.  

No matter where you are in Trenton there are pockets that you need to be aware of in ANY Section.  I mentioned most of them.  

I like investing in Trenton.  The city inspections are what they are, but seem fair.  And I like the fact the the eviction process if you need to go down that route is very quick and fair.  

Just like being a landlord ANYWHERE.   Property management is the KEY to a successful investment.   If you do it your self or hire someone, you need to know what you are doing.  

If you are looking for management in Trenton, Feel to reach out to me for suggestions.  

Good Luck, 

Stephen Chatto



Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I have been looking at several properties online the last few days/ weeks in Trenton as well. As an outsider, it is kind of hard to see where the rather save neighborhoods are and where not, I feel.

Therefore my questions:

- Could you help me with names of rather good/ close to good neighborhoods?

- what ROI do you have & expect for these areas?

- Could somebody suggest a property manager?

- and have you seen already improvements in Trenton overall?

Thank you all very much already in advance. I will do further research now and would be very happy to get to know someone people who are interested as well.

Sandro

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  • Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    @Stephen Chatto

    Thanks for the detailed intro to this area. I'm wondering if you think things are improving in Trenton in the past two years? Any new jobs, new projects, and reduced crime rates etc? 

    Also, typically how long does it take for a SFH to be rented out? Not sure if there is enough demand for housing in Trenton.

  • Morris Plains, NJ · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Fairly easy to find renters. Just screen properly. Prices have gone up in the last year. Properties in the right area at the right price in some cases have been put under contract within minutes of listing...

  • Member since 2019 · 15 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    @Stephen Chatto - what's your take on Stuyvesant/Prospect and Berkeley Square? Are you seeing any signs of progress towards that end of River Road?

  • Rental Property Investor · Yardley, PA · Member since 2012 · 436 posts · 198 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Tracey Solomon:

    @Stephen Chatto - what's your take on Stuyvesant/Prospect and Berkeley Square? Are you seeing any signs of progress towards that end of River Road?

    Prices are going up a bit, But that's overall...  I don't see anything special going on in that area.  

  • Member since 2019 · 15 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    Thanks @Stephen Chatto! Sorry I didn't reply earlier! I went to see the property - it was a total gut job, which is more than I wanted to take on at the moment. Thanks for your insight!

  • Member since 2019 · 37 posts · 9 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Tracey Solomon:

    Thanks @Stephen Chatto! Sorry I didn't reply earlier! I went to see the property - it was a total gut job, which is more than I wanted to take on at the moment. Thanks for your insight!

    Hello Tracey - I’m under attorney review on a property in Berkeley Square. We conducted the home inspection on Saturday and it turned out to be a complete gut job. Not what we were expecting nevertheless we are asking our contractor to review report and initial itemized bid to get an high-level sense of cost so we can re-negotiate price.  

  • Member since 2019 · 15 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    @Rashonda Montgomery - congratulations! Yes, the way the listing read, it sounded as if some of the units were rentable. But they weren't in the least and it would be many months before you could start bringing in tenants smh. But it's a good idea to bring in a contractor just to get some more realistic estimates on cost. It looks like a huge job and I don't see signs of investment in the surrounding area which makes me wonder how much rent it could command. We may be talking about the same property lol.

  • New York City, NY · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    How is situation now in Trenton due to COVID? are they on time with rents? Planing on buying multifamily there, looks like a city with a ton of potential.

  • Developer · NY/NJ/PA · Member since 2018 · 758 posts · 935 votes
    6y

    1%, 2%, don't really matter. What matters is the actual cost to run a building in any specific area. Every area is a different and has their own nuances. Speak to people who have owned for a few years that have achieved some scale (50+ units) and they will tell you the pros and cons of your area. 

    Many area that seem like great buys according to the percentage rule, are horrible areas when you get real numbers from owners (and not TK sellers and agents). Usually maintenance is much higher, turnover is very high; etc etc. 

  • Member since 2020 · 41 posts · 21 votes
    5y

    From my experience about 90 percent are paying, it is always good to be a negotiator and be open or agreement arrangements specially in the era, as you understand section 8 checks dount bounce even in covid era.

  • Investor · Middletown, NJ · Member since 2008 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    My husband and I owned 2 rowhouses in Trenton for 10 years. The first 5 years was a real learning experience, with a few good tenants and a few evictions. We finally got good, long term tenants in both houses for our last 5 years of ownership and sold them both 2 years ago. Very low entry point of purchase, and if you get decent tenants that stay, you'll make money. But it's still a tough area, and a vacant house in between tenants is a target. We had the pipes stolen from one house. Property insurance is high, and so were taxes. We appealed years ago and won, but I understand the city recently raised the tax rate. We had a good contractor there that did all the repairs and showed the properties for us. He eventually became disabled, the good tenants moved out within 2 months of each other, and we sold. 

  • Investor · Freehold, NJ · Member since 2017 · 51 posts · 12 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Matt Faircloth:

    Hey All,

    We have owned properties in Trenton for the past 10 years - I also own and occupy an office building here.  For those looking at it from the outside, it doesn't look promising.  To investors that have their boots on the ground in the city, it has been a gold mine.  

    Yes there is some section 8 housing (which we don't shy away from) but there are plenty of other tenants available that are perfectly capable to pay the rent on their own and have decent jobs.  

    I remain bullish in the city - there is a newly elected mayor that is looking to make some radical changes (the last mayor ended up going to jail and ruined any momentum the city had before he was elected).  There are several multi million dollar redevelopment projects (not affordable housing ones either) in the pipline that will change the city for the better also.

    at anyone on this thread, shoot me a message on BP if you want more info on what we have learned on investing here.

    Matt Faircloth


     Matt - how is your sentiment w/r/t Trenton 6 years later? Do you still own in the area and have any additional feedback? I feel like I've heard your name before, did you know anyone over at Slatehouse PM (before they became Home 360?)

  • Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2018 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    @Matt Faircloth I am new to investing and have been looking in Trenton. I am curious to know what are your thoughts on investing in Trenton. Do you still feel the same as you mentioned in your previous posts?

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