SCAM ALERT! Check if your Property Specs have been stolen

SCAM ALERT! Check if your Property Specs have been stolen

Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 464 posts · 471 votes

I've just run into two separate occurrences where the description and photos of my SFH for rent have been stolen and put somewhere else at a ridiculously discounted rent.

The first one was on Redfin.com, and it was the house across the street. Or the address was, anyway. The photos, the description, etc., was all taken from our property. At half our rent.

I telephoned Redfin yesterday and left a rather irate message. I probably should have been nicer, but what-the-hey, it was fixed by today. They deserve credit for taking swift action to rectify their listing.

The second one was brought to our attention by somebody who found "our house" on Facebook. What the hell is Facebook doing advertising rental property in the first place? I thought Facebook was just a place to go to trash people you didn't like.

Anyhow, that ad was a complete fabrication, included a lot of our pictures, inflated the size of the house, and cut the rent. It even included pictures of the "owners", my goodness, what a wholesome looking family. Probably lifted from a stock-photos company. Unfortunately, the one thing that wasn't fabricated was our address.

Clearly these villains are attempting to use our hard work and diligence to scam potential renters into divulging all their personal info so they can engage in identity theft. It's not a big deal for the landlord, except for when people drop by unannounced, no appointment, and get all bent out of shape when they find out it's only half the house for twice the rent.

But a scam is a scam, and it needs to be stopped somehow. Or slowed down anyway.

Now you might wonder how you can ferret out these scammers. The only suggestion I can think of, other than random browsing the different websites (and Facebook), is to use Google Image Search with one of your property images. There should be a number of hits, and most of them should be legit. But if you find one that is NOT legit, it's time to take action.

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Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
3y

This is fairly common and has been happening for years. The listing platforms have gotten better about it as they have implemented some ownership verification questions, but it's hard to police an open submittal platform. By far the best ways I've heard to combat this is water mark all photos with your contact info, rent amount (potentially) and potentially the address as well. It keeps anyone else from being able to upload them without potential victims calling you which gives you an opportunity to intervene. 

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  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    This is fairly common and has been happening for years. The listing platforms have gotten better about it as they have implemented some ownership verification questions, but it's hard to police an open submittal platform. By far the best ways I've heard to combat this is water mark all photos with your contact info, rent amount (potentially) and potentially the address as well. It keeps anyone else from being able to upload them without potential victims calling you which gives you an opportunity to intervene. 

  • Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 464 posts · 471 votes
    3y

    @Matt Devincenzo

    That sounds good. I had seen images with the PM watermark on them. Now I know why!

  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    3y

    I saw this happening 13 years ago and it's never stopped.

    Watermark all your photos and it will stop. Search for "free photo watermark" for programs online. The free programs may take a little time, but you shouldn't have to do it very often. Paid programs allow you to watermark a lot of photos at once.

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  • Member since 2021 · 132 posts · 37 votes
    3y

    This happened to us recently as well. A sfh we had listed on most the rental websites was stolen and posted on Craigslist but they used terrible old images lol. We just have our phone number on the images themselves. 

  • Chad HalePro Member
    Property Manager / Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2013 · 779 posts · 301 votes
    3y
    Another vote for water marking
  • Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 464 posts · 471 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

    I saw this happening 13 years ago and it's never stopped.

    Watermark all your photos and it will stop. Search for "free photo watermark" for programs online. The free programs may take a little time, but you shouldn't have to do it very often. Paid programs allow you to watermark a lot of photos at once.


    I'm glad there is a program that does this, for those who don't have the technical know-how.
    For myself, I just used the "gimp" photo-editing program (it's free) and added the watermarks the hard way.

    It's weird, tho. We've had folks come in saying that the "owners" said they were out of town, and if they wanted to look at the house, just come by and peek in the windows. Heck, we're getting more hits from scammers than from the legit sites!

    Oh well, it's like I've said for a long time, we'll always have criminals. Today, they'll rob you blind, and you'll never know it until you check your accounts. A hundred years ago they'd rob you blind, but they'd have to bash in your skull first. Today, you're robbed blind and you're broke, but at least your skull is still intact!
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Alvin Sylvain:

    Scammers typically advertise low rates, which drives interest.

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