Lead Safe Certification in Cleveland OHIO

Lead Safe Certification in Cleveland OHIO

Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2023 · 6 posts · 25 votes

If you are looking for some information about the process of getting your properties lead certified in Cleveland, here is some info from my recent experience this past month.


I just recently went through the process of getting two recently purchased properties tested so we can get the Lead Safe Certification, which is a requirement for landlords in Cleveland, OH.  There are a number of contractors that can do the testing for you and prices seem to range anywhere from $300/unit to $900/unit.  Here is the website for more information about certification and a list of vetted contractors:

https://leadsafecle.org/lead-s...

After reaching out to a few different companies, I found one that was a game changer.  Zach Burkons at PB Free Ohio (https://pbfreeohio.com) not only responded within 30 minutes of me sending an email, but he was super fast at going to take a look at my properties and schedule testing within a week.  Many of the other contractors were unavailable to even come take a look at the properties for at least 3 weeks.  Zach also helped educate me about the process and gave me some information that other contractors did not.  PB Free Ohio is not the cheapest contractor, but you get what you pay for and I would recommend him to anyone who is going to go through this process.

There are 2 year certifications and 20 year certifications.  The 2 year certifications require dust swab samples from multiple areas (windows, window sills, floors) of each room (not basements) and the exterior must also pass visual inspection.  The 20 year certification requires each of your properties to pass the 2 year dust swab tests AND pass a lead x-ray gun test.  The cost for the 20 year test was more expensive than just the 2 year test, but if you figure that passing this and not having to re-test every 2 years, you are saving a TON of money.  For PB Free Ohio, Zach sends over a tech that does a cleaning of the areas to be dust swabbed first, and then another tech comes by to do the dust swab tests.  Zach also personally came to the properties to do the x-ray gun lead tests.  

Additionally, Zach gave me information to get landlord incentive reimbursement from the city for the cost of the lead testing!!  At the time I did it, there was potential incentives of up to $750/unit for the 2 year and $1000/unit for the 20 year.  The city apparently has a bunch of money allocated to assisting property owners with lead remediation and testing, so take advantage while you can!  

https://leadsafecle.org/

Another thing to note is that the city is making it difficult to evict tenants if you do not have the lead certification on your properties, so if you want to avoid potential major headaches in the future, you should go through this process.  Also, making sure that your properties are safe for your tenants, especially children, so you should go through this process.  Do the right thing.  

If you have not purchased any properties in Cleveland yet and are looking to buy, I HIGHLY suggest that you do some research on this lead certification process and look closely at potential properties to see if they will need remediation or not.  The cost of remediation can be VERY expensive, so you may want to avoid having to go through this if you are looking for a more turn key investment.  Things to look out for are old windows, old wood siding, peeling paint on exteriors and interiors, and damage to window sills, door frames, and walls.  

Good luck out there!

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Jack KrusinskiBusiness Member
Realtor · Cleveland/Akron OH · Member since 2019 · 141 posts · 91 votes
3y

Thank you for sharing your experience Ryan! Very helpful for all Cleveland real estate investors.  

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  • Jack KrusinskiBusiness Member
    Realtor · Cleveland/Akron OH · Member since 2019 · 141 posts · 91 votes
    3y

    Thank you for sharing your experience Ryan! Very helpful for all Cleveland real estate investors.  

  • Real Estate Agent · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2021 · 383 posts · 361 votes
    3y

    This is an excellent resource to anyone interested in Cleveland. Thank you for putting this out there in a post.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    Another idea is just have your team do it. Is $500 for everything unless issues. I have done about 250 in the last 6 months, BTW its a total scam / money maker for the city. 

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2019 · 64 posts · 29 votes
    3y

    Has anyone actually been asked to make their units lead safe? I have never been sent a letter from the city regarding this. 

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2019 · 64 posts · 29 votes
    3y

    Also the lead cert. is no longer a requirement for evictions I am not sure where you got that information from. 

  • Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Bob S. someone sue to overturn

    The testing is rinky dink and easy to fake. 

    What stops someone from using lead paint after the twenty year certification?

    Someone comes in and uses lead roof materials, electrical conduits, a tank lining, soft solder, or

    parts from China all which have lead in remodeling after the certification...

    I know lead is dangerous for children. It can ruin a brain or nervous system for life.


  • Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2023 · 6 posts · 25 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jacob Graves:

    Has anyone actually been asked to make their units lead safe? I have never been sent a letter from the city regarding this. 


     As a new investor to Cleveland, I had spoken to my agent as well as property management about getting my properties lead safe certified and they both agreed that it was a good idea.  In fact, our property management company required the certification before they would be able to market the properties.  On top of that, other than the cost of getting the testing and certifications, why not do it?  I was able to get proof that my properties are on the up-and-up for lead levels, if I were to have had lead issues, it would have been a lot easier to address and remediate them while my properties are vacant vs occupied, and I'm protecting myself as an investor from potential headaches if the city does in fact start to enforce having this certification prior to evicting a tenant.  Sure, this COULD be a cash grab by the city, but maybe there are some good intentions behind it?  There is strong data that correlates lead exposure with health problems.  I want to do my best to follow the rules in whatever city I have properties in.  Whether I agree with the rules or not is irrelevant.  I want to provide the best rentals I can for my tenants and hopefully that will translate to happy tenants that will help me build some wealth down the road.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2023 · 6 posts · 25 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Bob S. someone sue to overturn

    The testing is rinky dink and easy to fake. 

    What stops someone from using lead paint after the twenty year certification?

    Someone comes in and uses lead roof materials, electrical conduits, a tank lining, soft solder, or

    parts from China all which have lead in remodeling after the certification...

    I know lead is dangerous for children. It can ruin a brain or nervous system for life.



     I personally watched our lead tester do all the testing and there wasn't a single thing fake about it.  I suppose maybe somebody could Photoshop some results if they really wanted to.  

    There could be potential for materials with lead in them to make their way into a property, I agree.  My understanding is that the city wants to minimize the lead content of areas in a home that occupants have the most exposure to, hence the testing is on walls, window sills, and other painted areas.  


    My goal really is just to do my best to do the right thing by following the rules and laws that are in place for landlords, provide a good experience for tenants, and make some money while doing it.  

  • Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Ryan Brouwer of course we all want a safe place for our tenants and our business. 

    There are 100 ways to circumvent the testing procedures. 

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2019 · 64 posts · 29 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ryan Brouwer:
    Quote from @Jacob Graves:

    Has anyone actually been asked to make their units lead safe? I have never been sent a letter from the city regarding this. 


     As a new investor to Cleveland, I had spoken to my agent as well as property management about getting my properties lead safe certified and they both agreed that it was a good idea.  In fact, our property management company required the certification before they would be able to market the properties.  On top of that, other than the cost of getting the testing and certifications, why not do it?  I was able to get proof that my properties are on the up-and-up for lead levels, if I were to have had lead issues, it would have been a lot easier to address and remediate them while my properties are vacant vs occupied, and I'm protecting myself as an investor from potential headaches if the city does in fact start to enforce having this certification prior to evicting a tenant.  Sure, this COULD be a cash grab by the city, but maybe there are some good intentions behind it?  There is strong data that correlates lead exposure with health problems.  I want to do my best to follow the rules in whatever city I have properties in.  Whether I agree with the rules or not is irrelevant.  I want to provide the best rentals I can for my tenants and hopefully that will translate to happy tenants that will help me build some wealth down the road.  


     The thought of doing well for your tenants and expecting that in return shows your experience.

    No arguments with doing the right thing lead wise, but it really is a bad way to invest thinking that karma will meet you down the road. 

    Good luck 

  • Rental Property Investor · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2023 · 6 posts · 25 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Jacob Graves:
    Quote from @Ryan Brouwer:
    Quote from @Jacob Graves:

    Has anyone actually been asked to make their units lead safe? I have never been sent a letter from the city regarding this. 


     As a new investor to Cleveland, I had spoken to my agent as well as property management about getting my properties lead safe certified and they both agreed that it was a good idea.  In fact, our property management company required the certification before they would be able to market the properties.  On top of that, other than the cost of getting the testing and certifications, why not do it?  I was able to get proof that my properties are on the up-and-up for lead levels, if I were to have had lead issues, it would have been a lot easier to address and remediate them while my properties are vacant vs occupied, and I'm protecting myself as an investor from potential headaches if the city does in fact start to enforce having this certification prior to evicting a tenant.  Sure, this COULD be a cash grab by the city, but maybe there are some good intentions behind it?  There is strong data that correlates lead exposure with health problems.  I want to do my best to follow the rules in whatever city I have properties in.  Whether I agree with the rules or not is irrelevant.  I want to provide the best rentals I can for my tenants and hopefully that will translate to happy tenants that will help me build some wealth down the road.  


     The thought of doing well for your tenants and expecting that in return shows your experience.

    No arguments with doing the right thing lead wise, but it really is a bad way to invest thinking that karma will meet you down the road. 

    Good luck 


     You are correct that I do not yet have a ton of investing experience.  I am constantly learning new things and I will continue to adjust my strategies and processes based on experiences I have as time goes on.  

    I have been working in the healthcare industry for over a decade now and I am a firm believer in customer service and treating people how I would want to be treated.  There are definitely people out there that will treat others poorly no matter how nice you are to them, but it has been my experience that the vast majority of humans are good people and have good intentions.  Having said that, yes I am fully expecting to have tenants that absolutely don't care about anything and will be headaches.  I don't think it has anything to do with karma.  I just want to continue being a decent human being and treat everyone with respect.  If bad outcomes occur, then I know for a fact that its a problem with the other person/people, not me.

    Thank you for your feedback. 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Bob S. someone sue to overturn

    The testing is rinky dink and easy to fake. 

    What stops someone from using lead paint after the twenty year certification?

    Someone comes in and uses lead roof materials, electrical conduits, a tank lining, soft solder, or

    parts from China all which have lead in remodeling after the certification...

    I know lead is dangerous for children. It can ruin a brain or nervous system for life.



     Its a SCAM, just a way for the city to make money, 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ryan Brouwer:

    If you are looking for some information about the process of getting your properties lead certified in Cleveland, here is some info from my recent experience this past month.


    I just recently went through the process of getting two recently purchased properties tested so we can get the Lead Safe Certification, which is a requirement for landlords in Cleveland, OH.  There are a number of contractors that can do the testing for you and prices seem to range anywhere from $300/unit to $900/unit.  Here is the website for more information about certification and a list of vetted contractors:

    https://leadsafecle.org/lead-s...

    After reaching out to a few different companies, I found one that was a game changer.  Zach Burkons at PB Free Ohio (https://pbfreeohio.com) not only responded within 30 minutes of me sending an email, but he was super fast at going to take a look at my properties and schedule testing within a week.  Many of the other contractors were unavailable to even come take a look at the properties for at least 3 weeks.  Zach also helped educate me about the process and gave me some information that other contractors did not.  PB Free Ohio is not the cheapest contractor, but you get what you pay for and I would recommend him to anyone who is going to go through this process.

    There are 2 year certifications and 20 year certifications.  The 2 year certifications require dust swab samples from multiple areas (windows, window sills, floors) of each room (not basements) and the exterior must also pass visual inspection.  The 20 year certification requires each of your properties to pass the 2 year dust swab tests AND pass a lead x-ray gun test.  The cost for the 20 year test was more expensive than just the 2 year test, but if you figure that passing this and not having to re-test every 2 years, you are saving a TON of money.  For PB Free Ohio, Zach sends over a tech that does a cleaning of the areas to be dust swabbed first, and then another tech comes by to do the dust swab tests.  Zach also personally came to the properties to do the x-ray gun lead tests.  

    Additionally, Zach gave me information to get landlord incentive reimbursement from the city for the cost of the lead testing!!  At the time I did it, there was potential incentives of up to $750/unit for the 2 year and $1000/unit for the 20 year.  The city apparently has a bunch of money allocated to assisting property owners with lead remediation and testing, so take advantage while you can!  

    https://leadsafecle.org/

    Another thing to note is that the city is making it difficult to evict tenants if you do not have the lead certification on your properties, so if you want to avoid potential major headaches in the future, you should go through this process.  Also, making sure that your properties are safe for your tenants, especially children, so you should go through this process.  Do the right thing.  

    If you have not purchased any properties in Cleveland yet and are looking to buy, I HIGHLY suggest that you do some research on this lead certification process and look closely at potential properties to see if they will need remediation or not.  The cost of remediation can be VERY expensive, so you may want to avoid having to go through this if you are looking for a more turn key investment.  Things to look out for are old windows, old wood siding, peeling paint on exteriors and interiors, and damage to window sills, door frames, and walls.  

    Good luck out there!


     On of the biggest scams/ money maker in the country , 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Ryan Brouwer of course we all want a safe place for our tenants and our business. 

    There are 100 ways to circumvent the testing procedures. 


     HMM please share. I have done dozens and dozens of them how do you NOT get the test ? 

  • Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    @Bob S. call me ...off-line

  • Member since 2023 · 1 post · 0 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bob S.:
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Ryan Brouwer of course we all want a safe place for our tenants and our business. 

    There are 100 ways to circumvent the testing procedures. 


     HMM please share. I have done dozens and dozens of them how do you NOT get the test ? 


    I am also curious ...... how is this possible ?

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Dylan Mendoza:
    Quote from @Bob S.:
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Ryan Brouwer of course we all want a safe place for our tenants and our business. 

    There are 100 ways to circumvent the testing procedures. 


     HMM please share. I have done dozens and dozens of them how do you NOT get the test ? 


    I am also curious ...... how is this possible 

    Its NOT possible to avoid the test. I am an expert ALL that is Cleveland, 
  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Bob S. call me ...off-line


     Sorry I just saw this, 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    @Bob S. someone sue to overturn

    The testing is rinky dink and easy to fake. 

    What stops someone from using lead paint after the twenty year certification?

    Someone comes in and uses lead roof materials, electrical conduits, a tank lining, soft solder, or

    parts from China all which have lead in remodeling after the certification...

    I know lead is dangerous for children. It can ruin a brain or nervous system for life.



     Well many in Cleveland will scream lead only for a pay day, scammers out there. They could have gotten it from 100 places, but they go after the landlords, total SCAM. 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Jacob Graves:

    Has anyone actually been asked to make their units lead safe? I have never been sent a letter from the city regarding this. 


     THANK GOODNESS LOL, you just do it, is 600buxish for peace of mind. If you have props with kids and you did not pass your led test you are playing with fire.

  • Member since 2025 · 1 post · 1 vote
    1y

    My experience with Zak, wasn't that great, he did respond fast, issued an invoice immediately, but the work was never done. I ended up hiring someone else.

  • Terra BonillaPro Member
    Member since 2024 · 1 post · 0 votes
    8mo

    Thank you for sharing this information!  We just bought a duplex in Cleveland and are just starting this process!

  • Arman AhmedPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus Cleveland Dayton, OH · Member since 2024 · 2k+ posts · 911 votes
    8mo

    @Ryan Brouwer

    Great breakdown, Ryan! Lead Safe certification is definitely something all Cleveland investors need to factor in, especially on older properties—costs and timelines can really add up. Appreciate the contractor rec and tips on incentives—super helpful for anyone planning flips or rentals. Happy to connect with fellow investors and share insights on sourcing and managing properties safely.

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