Things you need to know about Philadelphia Landlording

Things you need to know about Philadelphia Landlording

Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 476 posts · 360 votes

I run a group of over 2,000 Philadelphia area landlords and almost a day does not go buy where someone asks a question or shares an experience that makes you realize just how much you need to know in order to be a successful landlord.  Not everything is intuitive or about being a smart investor or manager. I invest in multiple markets and each one has its own quirks - things that you would never think to ask or check into. Here is an example.  In Philly, the majority of homes use gas for heat and hot water. So you may think that when your tenant moves in and shows you that he has placed the gas in his name, that is the end of story. But guess what, if you leave it at that and your tenant fails to pay their gas bills, when he eventually leaves the property, you will not know that there are unpaid bills, but you will be responsible to pay them. Sounds unfair right? So there is a Landlord Cooperation program that you need to sign up for with the gas company and once you do that, you eliminate that risk, as long as you remain compliant (by having a valid rental license).    The lesson is that when you go into a new market, do not assume anything. Join groups, use property management companies, research on your own -- and make sure you have a full understanding of the requirements for being a landlord.

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Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
2y

Absolutely and well said. Keep throwing those tips out for everyone. You should mobilize that 2000 into a voting bloc against any anti-landlord representatives.

Btw, in Seattle, owner is responsible for Electricity, regardless of name on the bill. Just passed last year. I'm pulling the plug on all Seattle rentals. 

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  • Ian WalshBusiness Member
    Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Proper landlording in Phila is pretty intense.  

  • Real Estate Agent · South Jersey and Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 52 posts · 13 votes
    2y

    Why would not landlord disconnect utilities from their end as well and check that their bill is final bill.

    I had a situation Delco where the tenant was evicted and did not pay water bill for few months but utility company(Aqua) was kind enough to write it off as utility was in the tenants name.

  • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 476 posts · 360 votes
    2y

    @Sunny A. when a gas bill is in tenant's name, the landlord does not have access to the account. But regardless, the way it works in Philadelphia is that water and gas are lienable items -- so if a tenant does not pay, the utility will come after the owner, not the tenant whose name is on the bill. In the case of gas, the gas company offers a landlord cooperation program in which the LL is protected from being liable for delinquent gas bills. For water, there is nothing a landlord can do. Any unpaid water bills will always be the owner responsibility. So we keep water in our name and bill our tenants. May not make sense that this happens, but it is the way it works. Inexperienced LLs sometimes get caught by this with unpleasant surprises.

  • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    LCP is super important! Make sure to monitor the portal too for updates!

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  • Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Absolutely and well said. Keep throwing those tips out for everyone. You should mobilize that 2000 into a voting bloc against any anti-landlord representatives.

    Btw, in Seattle, owner is responsible for Electricity, regardless of name on the bill. Just passed last year. I'm pulling the plug on all Seattle rentals. 

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2021 · 64 posts · 12 votes
    2y

    Thanks for this info! I always wondered why everyone put water in their own name but that makes sense. One question about this. I currently have a vacant duplex that I'm trying to rent out and am currently living in one of the units but will move once I get tenants for both. In the terms and conditions for the PGW landlord program, it states "Property owners shall not register their own residence, or properties for which the owner is the PGW customer of record." Given I do not have tenants yet does that mean I cannot sign up? Do I have to wait until I get tenants?

    Appreciate the help!

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