A very fake rental application story.

A very fake rental application story.

Homeowner · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 358 posts · 65 votes

I recently listed a single-family rental home and received an application through Zillow from a candidate who initially appeared ideal. The applicant presented a strong profile: a credit score over 770, a 98% on-time payment history, and no background issues. The submitted pay stubs were from a large, well-known hospital or healthcare organization, and her stated income was 3.7 times the monthly rent.

Although communication was somewhat slow, the applicant expressed interest in moving forward and asked how to submit the security deposit. However, I encountered red flags during the verification process. I attempted to contact both her stated employer and current property manager but was unable to reach anyone by phone, and I received no response from the HR department.

Out of concern, I asked a friend who works within the same hospital system to verify the applicant, and they were unable to locate any record of her employment. When I confronted the applicant about the incorrect reference information, she quickly followed up with revised contacts who responded immediately and offered glowing feedback — which felt orchestrated.

When she arrived for the home tour, she brought a young child and revealed she actually had four children under six years old, contradicting her earlier statement of having only one. When I mentioned my friend who works at the hospital, she avoided the topic. She then asked how to pay the deposit and first month’s rent. I requested she use Zelle, as specified in our terms, but she insisted on using a money order instead. I declined and offered to accompany her to her state credit union to initiate payment, but she asked for more time to think.

Within a few hours, we signed a lease with another qualified family who had been on our waiting list.

This is the first time in my 11 years as a landlord and realtor that I’ve encountered a situation like this. I called the HR department of the healthcare organization to report my concerns and ask for verification, but they refused to confirm or deny the applicant’s employment. Instead, they referred me to a generic 800-number, which led to no actual human support.

I am concerned that such policies may inadvertently allow individuals to create convincing but fraudulent rental applications without proper checks. This experience highlights the challenges landlords face in tenant screening, particularly when institutional employers are unwilling to participate in basic verification.

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Jaron WallingPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
1y

We ran into a somewhat similar situation when screening a tenant a few years ago. The previous apartment complex acted like they needed to verify who we were before releasing any information on the applicate (our tenant). It was pretty frustrating. Why would someone waste time confirming rental payments and payment history for an apartment they don't even live in?? It's not like we requested a unit #, or other personal information. We already had most of those things from our application. 

"I called the HR department of the healthcare organization to report my concerns and ask for verification, but they refused to confirm or deny the applicant’s employment." - Hot take; this is pure laziness from an employee or corporate BS that forces them to give this response. Hospitals are incredibly frustrating to deal with. 

Great call choosing the next applicate. The first applicate lied about stuff. That's a red flag leading to future issues. 

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  • Jaron WallingPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    1y

    We ran into a somewhat similar situation when screening a tenant a few years ago. The previous apartment complex acted like they needed to verify who we were before releasing any information on the applicate (our tenant). It was pretty frustrating. Why would someone waste time confirming rental payments and payment history for an apartment they don't even live in?? It's not like we requested a unit #, or other personal information. We already had most of those things from our application. 

    "I called the HR department of the healthcare organization to report my concerns and ask for verification, but they refused to confirm or deny the applicant’s employment." - Hot take; this is pure laziness from an employee or corporate BS that forces them to give this response. Hospitals are incredibly frustrating to deal with. 

    Great call choosing the next applicate. The first applicate lied about stuff. That's a red flag leading to future issues. 

  • Kim Meredith HamptonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · St Petersburg · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1y

    unfortunately we have become FBI investigators. We always have to double check names and numbers, check pay stubs, look up numbers for verifying employment, verify landlords etc….

  • Rental Property Investor · Austin · Member since 2022 · 33 posts · 11 votes
    1y

    I've encountered similar struggles when attempting to verify rental history with previous landlords, especially when it's a larger apartment complex. It's challenging when the systems in place seem to hinder transparency! To help with employment verification I use a screening platform that gets employment status and income details directly from the applicant's payroll providers.

  • Homeowner · Tampa, FL · Member since 2016 · 358 posts · 65 votes
    1y

    The HR representative asked who I was but refused to confirm even a simple "yes" or "no" regarding whether the individual in question is employed there—despite that person submitting pay stubs showing their company name.

    This raises a serious concern: how can landlords and property managers trust the credit and background checks provided through Zillow if employment and income details can be so easily falsified? If an applicant submits fraudulent credit or employment information, could this potentially trigger legal consequences in any state?

    Apply a rental is so similar to buy a house. If landlord frauds on files to purchase a house, the consequence is very serious.

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Huiping S. this is nothing!

    Fake references have been done for years!

    Since COVID, we've seena spike in:

    1) Fake paystubs - that look real since the are being generated with QuickBooks and other accounting software!
    2) Fake W-2s - see #1 above
    3) Fake bank statements - not sure how they pulled it off, but they made math mistakes, which we caught
    4) Hiding evictions & past landlords: we check public records to ID property owners, then do whitepages.com lookup to get their numbers. We check state website for LLC registered agents and contact them. For apartment buildings we Google for the phone - sometimes have to use Google Streetview to virtually see outside sign with complex name & phone.
    - many applicants claim they are living with a relative to hide they are in the process of being evicted by actual current landlord. We require a copy of the lease for the building, even if applicant not on the lease, so we can contact owner to verify if they live there. 

    Recommend EVERY landlord require W-2 and bank statement from EVERY applicant to try to avoid paystub fraud! 

    Many PMC application systems now require tenants to allow direct access to their bank accounts via Plaid and other connectivity systems. They are also integrating with employment verification systems. This helps avoid a lot of fraud.

    FYI: This will get worse with AI generated documents!

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