tenant says house has mold/air quality issues (philadelphia)

tenant says house has mold/air quality issues (philadelphia)

Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 55 posts · 3 votes

a tenant in one of my rentals claims the house has mold issues.  this home is probably 100 years old like most of philadelphia homes.  i have been vigilant in all repairs at the house.  the house, like most, always need some TLC.   he says he and his lady have allergies and so do the kids. allergies to the point they wont open the windows.   they have always had allergies.  but he mentioned the word mold and i checked the house and there is a small patch in two different areas that were addressed.  maybe a total of a couple square feet.  i dont even know what they were.  but the tenant pointed them out to me and i addressed them. i sprayed them three times over the course of three days with bleach and painted them with mold killer from depot @30bucks a gallon... they were on bricks in the basement and in the walls above the drop ceiling.  they spots were isolated to one area.  i checked the rest of the home and there was nothing visible.  i treated the visible areas (as they cannot be removed).   

i went a step further and we spoke about the insulation in the home.  the insulation is just sitting on the drop ceiling tiles all throughout the second floor.  the insulation is old (and it is). my tenant is the son of the seller.  my tenant has been in the house since he was born.  to ease his concerns for allergies and air quality, i paid to have the old carpets in the first floor removed (they were there for 20 years)

i am removing all the drop ceiling tiles and insulation in the second floor and installing new sheetrock throughout the second floor (close to 80 sheets or rock). total cost around 4k! i even purchased two $150 air purifiers and gave him a third to be placed throughout the home to help with air quality. he wife and two kids live there, again, they all claim to have allergies and they think its the air quality.

  the tenant has been with me for three years.  he renewed his lease.  he signed the lease acknowledging the home is in good condition.  i even waived three months rent to compensate for the inconvenience of air quality and having contractors in and out on top of paying several thousands to remedy what is an out of date old home morphed into air quality issues.   i offered him a free place to stay at another home of mine that is vacant (it doesnt have the modern conveniences but its a free place to stay.

i dont know if the tenants are extremely sensitive to dust and airborne particles?  im not sure how far i should go?  

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Contractor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2014 · 885 posts · 359 votes
10y

@Robert Hastings have you had any testing done to confirm that there is in fact an issue?

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  • Contractor · Pittsburgh, PA · Member since 2014 · 885 posts · 359 votes
    10y

    @Robert Hastings have you had any testing done to confirm that there is in fact an issue?

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    Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    10y

    Robert:

    I don't think anyone could accuse you of being unresponsive to a tenants needs.

    I've had mold in my own house and have allergies.  Normally removing the mold and the source of the water fixes it, which is what we did.  I also have a house in Texas that had a leak behind the wall and expected to do the same.  Unfortunately in Texas, mold in a rental is treated like asbestos and I had to pay a lot for the guys in spacesuits to clean it all out.  Not sure the rules in PA, but expect the colder states are not as crazy on mold rules.  You may want to check on that for CYA purposes.

    Assuming PA has no crazy mold rules, it sounds like you have gone above and beyond for this person.  I don't think I would have provided 3 months free rent if I resolved the problem quickly.

    The part I'm having trouble reconciling is that he grew up in that house.  If he complains again, I might have a mold inspector come in to check. (Mostly to protect you; obviously if they find a real problem, it is something that could be corrected.)  If the inspector says the house is in normal range, I would tell the tenant and then stop doing repairs that may not be fixing anything.   

    You may be better off letting them move out at the end of their lease.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 506 posts · 311 votes
    10y

    First step is testing. In Texas a service may be $250 for the test and $150-$200 for lab work on each sample to evaluate.  

    Its always best to use a third-party independent and professional opinion. The pro can also offer an opinion for any tenant causes.

    Then you can show findings and recommendations, and put it to bed for good one way or the other.

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    10y

    The source of your mold problem is your tenant. If they are not opening windows moisture is going to be trapped in the home and cause mold. It is very difficult to properly ventilate a 100 year old home so make sure fans in the bath and kitchen are operating properly and being used as they should be.

    Other than that I would be strongly suggesting to your tenant that they move. You are going to be spending unnecessary money fixing his problems not yours. This is only the beginning of the problems you are going to experience with this tenant. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 85 posts · 11 votes
    10y

    You sir are an awesome landlord! I'll say that...You probably needed to make those updates anyway but I would have had test ran instead. BTW 80 pieces of sheetrock is $1,600 call me next time sheesh!

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