Buying a duplex deal with section 8 month to month tenants

Buying a duplex deal with section 8 month to month tenants

Investor · San Diego CA · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 0 votes

Hello everyone, here comes my first BP post after listening to podcast for 2 months, and my first offer.

So we just submitted an offer for an AS IS duplex deal, the location of the property has great potential, multiple offers in place in a very short period of time. As the projecting rental cash flow numbers work on my sheet, we decided to make an offer despite the fact that we have not got a chance to walk through it yet. Because if we don't, we won't even have a chance to walk as they are making a decision tomorrow.

This duplex has section 8 tenants in each unit on a month to month lease. Based on the information we received from seller, it seems like they have been in there for many years, as the lead paint certificates have not been renewed for a long time. Also found out that water bill is paid by landlord and it was HIGH, which would weaken this deal had I factor that in my sheet earlier...if they accept our offer, we are going to do a walk through, then inspections.

Questions: What should we pay attention to at this stage and during walk through? And what should we do with the tenants if we close on this deal? And the water bill?

Thank you!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Union City, PA · Member since 2015 · 40 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    Sounds kind'of scary! You may want to get actual #'s on the property as far as income and expenses (don't go from pro-forma info).  

    With my experience, Section 8 renews for 1 year, but that may be a location issue?   I purchased a Section 8 occupied unit and since the prior owner included the water bill with the rent, I was not allowed to increase the rent until the 1 year anniversary date and was then told I could only raise it by $10. (could be different in your area) You should be able to get a copy of the lease which would have the lease ending date.  I would not want to take on a new property and kick out tenants being a new landlord (gotta make the payment!)  

    I would suggest that when you go through the property you can look for condensation on any exposed water lines (sometimes you can see on the toilet tank or in the basement) if there is water condensation that seems to indicate there is a slow leak somewhere.

    You could also call the local water authority and ask them what an average bill is for a 2 bedroom, etc. and they may give you some good info.

    Good luck!

  • Real Estate Consultant · Brookfield, WI · Member since 2014 · 873 posts · 350 votes
    9y

    @Lee Chen call the local water agency and ask them what should an average water bill be for how many people are in the units based on the lease. If it is too high then you might have a water leak or the tenants just use too much water. If there are no leaks and the tenants are using to much water let the tenants know that you are going up on the rent. 

    When you walk through the units you want to look for deferred maintenance, things that will drive up your expenses in the future when you turn a unit. Look for leaks. If the tenants are there ask them if they are having any problems with anything. 

    Make sure you walk through during the inspection and ask lots of questions. 

    Mr. Duplex 

  • Investor · San Diego CA · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    9y
  • Investor · San Diego CA · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    @Michael Henry Thank you Mr Duplex, We will use these tips for future properties. Our offer was not accepted on this particular one...

  • Rental Property Investor · Union City, PA · Member since 2015 · 40 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    That's a great attitude! There are actually houses everywhere! Just gotta wait for the right deal and know when to jump.

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