Lease is ending in a couple of days. Rent paid in full but keys has not been returned. Today I got notification from Gas Company that the service on the property has been shut off 2 days ago per tenant’s request and it’s now under my account because I have a continuous agreement as owner. I haven’t heard from tenant. She is a tricky person so I kind of understand it. Can I take this as a proof she abandoned my property and should go ahead to take possession back? Please give me advise. Thank you so much.
Real Estate Broker · St Petersburg · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
8y
Winn,
The tenant has until midnight of the 30th to return the keys, don’t cause yourself trouble by going into the unit now since she has paid and given you proper notice. Try calling, texting, emailing, courier pigeon to get the keys and make sure she has truly vacated
Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 930 votes
8y
Check your local landlord ordinance. There is usually specific description of when a property can be considered abandoned and what documentation you have to have.
Real Estate Broker · St Petersburg · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
8y
Winn,
The tenant has until midnight of the 30th to return the keys, don’t cause yourself trouble by going into the unit now since she has paid and given you proper notice. Try calling, texting, emailing, courier pigeon to get the keys and make sure she has truly vacated
Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
8y
If she has paid for through the last day of the month and she has not returned the keys to you, I would not assume she has "abandoned" the property.
At the very least, I would wait until the first of the month to enter the unit. I would prefer to wait until the tenant has notified me they have moved out and returned the keys, and/or I can see all the furniture has been taken out of the property.
Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
8y
@Winn Vu You should definitely make every attempt to contact the tenant and confirm with her that she’s moved out. However, if you can’t get ahold of her, I would make sure you comply with the law before you take back possession.
If this property is in your state (California), to be legally considered abandoned, you must reasonably believes that the tenant has abandoned the property AND the rent on the property must be due and unpaid for at least 14 consecutive days.
The termination of utilities could give you reasonable belief that she’s abandoned the property, but you’d still need rent to be overdue by 14 days and to serve a Notice of Belief of Abandonment.
Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
8y
Its 2 days. Why the angst? I wouldn't dream of declaring a paid up, properly notified intent to vacate 2 days before.
Impatience and RE don't mix in RE on many levels. If someone took gas/heat out of their name randomly in the middle of winter I'd be concerned, but not here.
Take a breath and contact them on the 1st if you still need to.
I would like to thank you all for the advise and to share some closing. Today is last day of rent. Because she has been a very difficult tenant so I always had to think ahead. Yesterday I gave her two options by emailing her: return the key on the last day at 6pm or the next day at 7m. I will meet her at the house for the key. I want it in person to avoid complications. She replied back she wants 6pm. After she gave us the key, she asked me to leave. I said she had to leave because it’s now my house. She said she has it until midnight (the house was empty and utilities had been transferred back to my name). I got frustrated and could not think straight so I left with the key. But soon enough, I realized she was ridiculous. Who has the key should possess the house, right? So I went back, entered and rekeyed all the locks. What do you think of her? I wish I had more experience to deal with trouble tenants. Just wanted to share it.