Do not take shortcuts on screening!

Do not take shortcuts on screening!

Bob RomanoPro Member
Investor · Warwick, RI · Member since 2015 · 137 posts · 100 votes

Thought I had the perfect tenant. Did a background check, got copies of his pay stub, call HR and checked on his employment, I even called his HR Dept and verified all his info before he even gave my the persons name to contact just in case he set someone up to answer for him. Everything checked out fine. He is a VP of Operations and makes $2600 week. ( rent is $1900 mth) Well he moved in Nov 2018 , he paid Nov & Dec  no problem. He signed a 5 year lease to boot. Thought I was all set for 5 years with the perfect tenant, now im thinking I got scammed.    My bank tried to auto debit ( Cozy) his account on Jan 5th, 5 days past the rent due date and it was insufficient. I called him, he said there was a  mixup with his bank and that he will pay me cash for Jan and correct the auto debit for Feb. ( excuses) Well here it is 21 days later and still no cash.

Now  he is 21 days late for Jan. I sent him a 5 day demand for payment letter and got no response.

He wont return my calls, emails or text. I went to the house, see both cars in the driveway, no one answers the door.  I do not know what to do next at this point but turn over to the lawyers. Now the only thing that seemed fishy was  when I told him I was running his credit report early on, he said" I just ran it last week for something else and I do not want another " ding" on my report so could he just send me a copy of that one he has, so I agreed. now im thinking the report must of been forged somehow. Because why would someone with an 805 credit score risk having an eviction ? He had 0 cc debt, no evictions anywhere, etc   Moral of the story is : do not take any shortcuts on the screening process. Even if they have copies or whatever, due your complete due diligence on every tenant. I should of went with my gut feeling about this guy. I had a feeling something wasn't right but I took a chance and now im paying for it. Should I send this to the lawyers and get rid of him? I don't want to start the process, pay my lawyer then he comes up with money and now im back to square one.  AnyThoughts?

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Leclaire, IA · Member since 2016 · 161 posts · 130 votes
7y

@Bob Romano

No no no. Next excuse is gonna be “ I left cash in the mailbox for you but someone must have stolen it”. Make him deliver it to you in person

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  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bob Romano:

    My fear is that this pro tenant subleased the house out to someone else and he doesn't even live there. How do I get the other people out who are not even on a lease? I am going by there today to see who answers the door, if anybody 

     Not an issue. You can evict a John Doe. I have done it 100's of times.

  • Developer · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    Agree with @James Wise and the others who said: Just EVICT this scumbag.

    2 Scenarios:

    1. Likely scenario: he does not have the money to pay so filing the eviction soon (NOW) means you get the process going and get him out of your house asap.

    2. Unlikely scenario that he does have the money - well, he will have to pay a late fee & the way I run my lease, if the tenant is so late that I have to file the eviction paperwork, the tenant pays for the cost of filing the eviction.

    This will cost you more the longer you don't evict.

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 63 posts · 55 votes
    7y

    @Bob Romano I love that you put yourself out there! Hopefully other investors will take note and you can be the reason they don't make the same mistake. THANK YOU for having the guts!

    Lastly, file the eviction yesterday. Going forward file that 72 hour notice at 72 hours everytime! You present a pattern of how you will do business and hopefully you won't have to go to court, but if you do you can show responsibility on your part!

    Best of luck!

  • Bob RomanoPro Member
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    Investor · Warwick, RI · Member since 2015 · 137 posts · 100 votes
    7y

    Thanks Todd, I met with my lawyer today, we are serving him tomorrow. My theory is why wait for him to be 3-4 months behind? My lawyer said I’m doing the right thing by acting fast and swift. I’m not chasing this guy every month. 

  • Bob RomanoPro Member
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    Investor · Warwick, RI · Member since 2015 · 137 posts · 100 votes
    7y

    Hi mike, it states in my lease that he would have to pay legal fees , but my lawyer said “ don’t count on it” they never do. I will happy with just getting him to leave. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2016 · 325 posts · 253 votes
    7y

    @Bob Romano did you not get a copy of his drivers licenses and social security? Never ever accept credit reports from prospective rents but run it yourself. File for eviction tomorrow, do it your self as it will cost you less than $100. If money is not received by 5th then file it immediately no matter why the excuses are. Do it fast and get the clock started.

  • Rental Property Investor · Glendale, CA · Member since 2013 · 685 posts · 334 votes
    7y

    So what’s the status here?

    Is he actually living in the property or has he subleased?

    To your success!

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    7y

    Wow classic professional tenant. Clear as day.  My guess it was his suggestion to sign a 5 year lease. That is a classic professional tenant ploy to entice a inexperienced landlord. Provide his on credit report, classic. 

  • Bob RomanoPro Member
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    Investor · Warwick, RI · Member since 2015 · 137 posts · 100 votes
    7y

    tenant ended up paying my cash for Jan . He is in the process of setting up auto payment on line for Feb. he tried imputing a debit card for payment and he asked if I pay the 3% transaction fee. Told him no that’s his responsibility since he chooses to use debit. 

  • Bob RomanoPro Member
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    Investor · Warwick, RI · Member since 2015 · 137 posts · 100 votes
    7y

    @David Avetisyan He is living there, not subleasing.

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