Fine for leaving garbage in hallway

Fine for leaving garbage in hallway

Rental Property Investor · NJ · Member since 2019 · 442 posts · 40 votes

Hi, all. 

I'm having problems in a building where some tenants leave their garbage bags in the hallway overnight or even more..

how would you approach this situation  ?

and can I legally fine them? [It's in the state of new jersey]

thank you

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Investor · Gardena, CA · Member since 2017 · 445 posts · 398 votes
7y

We state that in the lease that trash bags cannot be left outside an apartment for even 1 minute.

Every tenant has the same excuse; "we just put it there for one minute until we take it to the trash".

I never heard of a landlord fining a tenant for anything. Not sure about a lease, but you can always put inclusions in a rental agreement with a 30-day notice. Rather than fining a tenant you need to give them a 7-Day Notice To Comply. It can be very simple. 

7-Day Notice To Comply

Dear Mr. & Mrs. Smith:

This is a 7-Day Notice To Comply. Please refrain from placing your trash outside your apartment for even one minute. Please keep your trash inside your apartment until you are ready to take it to the trash bins.

Thank you very much.

Most tenants comply. When they don't evict them and raise the rent. I just evicted a very good-paying tenant because her water heater stopped working on a Sunday. She sent me a nasty text message at noon and said she was going to call another plumbing company if I did not respond in 30 minutes. I am a plumbing contractor. I called her on the phone and she was really nasty. So, I fixed her water heater on Monday and gave her a Notice To Terminate Tenancy the same day. I had her apartment rented before she moved out and I am getting $250 more per month. That is $2800 per year and in 10 years is $28,000. 

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  • Developer · Closter, NJ · Member since 2016 · 392 posts · 109 votes
    7y

    @Sami Gren

    Is there anything in the lease stating where the garbage is supposed to be disposed ?

  • Investor · Gardena, CA · Member since 2017 · 445 posts · 398 votes
    7y

    We state that in the lease that trash bags cannot be left outside an apartment for even 1 minute.

    Every tenant has the same excuse; "we just put it there for one minute until we take it to the trash".

    I never heard of a landlord fining a tenant for anything. Not sure about a lease, but you can always put inclusions in a rental agreement with a 30-day notice. Rather than fining a tenant you need to give them a 7-Day Notice To Comply. It can be very simple. 

    7-Day Notice To Comply

    Dear Mr. & Mrs. Smith:

    This is a 7-Day Notice To Comply. Please refrain from placing your trash outside your apartment for even one minute. Please keep your trash inside your apartment until you are ready to take it to the trash bins.

    Thank you very much.

    Most tenants comply. When they don't evict them and raise the rent. I just evicted a very good-paying tenant because her water heater stopped working on a Sunday. She sent me a nasty text message at noon and said she was going to call another plumbing company if I did not respond in 30 minutes. I am a plumbing contractor. I called her on the phone and she was really nasty. So, I fixed her water heater on Monday and gave her a Notice To Terminate Tenancy the same day. I had her apartment rented before she moved out and I am getting $250 more per month. That is $2800 per year and in 10 years is $28,000. 

  • Investor · Gardena, CA · Member since 2017 · 445 posts · 398 votes
    7y

    We state that in the lease that trash bags cannot be left outside an apartment for even 1 minute.

    Every tenant has the same excuse; "we just put it there for one minute until we take it to the trash".

    I never heard of a landlord fining a tenant for anything. Not sure about a lease, but you can always put inclusions in a rental agreement with a 30-day notice. Rather than fining a tenant you need to give them a 7-Day Notice To Comply. It can be very simple. 

    7-Day Notice To Comply

    Dear Mr. & Mrs. Smith:

    This is a 7-Day Notice To Comply. Please refrain from placing your trash outside your apartment for even one minute. Please keep your trash inside your apartment until you are ready to take it to the trash bins.

    Thank you very much.

    Most tenants comply. When they don't evict them and raise the rent. I just evicted a very good-paying tenant because her water heater stopped working on a Sunday. She sent me a nasty text message at noon and said she was going to call another plumbing company if I did not respond in 30 minutes. I am a plumbing contractor. I called her on the phone and she was really nasty. So, I fixed her water heater on Monday and gave her a Notice To Terminate Tenancy the same day. I had her apartment rented before she moved out and I am getting $250 more per month. That is $2800 per year and in 10 years is $28,000. 

  • Investor · Gardena, CA · Member since 2017 · 445 posts · 398 votes
    7y

    We send notices to our tenants every few months and we always mention things that we don't like i.e. putting the trash outside apartments, putting chewing gum on sidewalks and balconies, keeping the laundry room and here is the one that raises the hair on the back of my neck. I hate to even mention this one. It is tenants who clear their sinuses (snots) on the walls. We paint our apartment buildings every 3 to 4 years, but we have to paint many walls every year because there is a specific ethnic group (won't say) who for some reason blows their snots on the walls and it is some real loose juice that runs about 18 inches down the wall. I keep sending letters to the tenants, but they don't stop. The tenants complain and say that my notes are rude. I just put cameras in one building and the first time I see a tenant doing 'it' I will not give them a Notice To Comply. I will immediately evict the tenant.

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    7y

    Then you need to start fining them.  If their response is "we just put it there for one minute until we take it to the trash", your reply is 'You are taking the trash out, all the way to the garbage can'.  It is either in their garbage can or the big one for the complex.

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ · Member since 2019 · 442 posts · 40 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    We state that in the lease that trash bags cannot be left outside an apartment for even 1 minute.

    Every tenant has the same excuse; "we just put it there for one minute until we take it to the trash".

    I never heard of a landlord fining a tenant for anything. Not sure about a lease, but you can always put inclusions in a rental agreement with a 30-day notice. Rather than fining a tenant you need to give them a 7-Day Notice To Comply. It can be very simple. 

    7-Day Notice To Comply

    Dear Mr. & Mrs. Smith:

    This is a 7-Day Notice To Comply. Please refrain from placing your trash outside your apartment for even one minute. Please keep your trash inside your apartment until you are ready to take it to the trash bins.

    Thank you very much.

    Most tenants comply. When they don't evict them and raise the rent. I just evicted a very good-paying tenant because her water heater stopped working on a Sunday. She sent me a nasty text message at noon and said she was going to call another plumbing company if I did not respond in 30 minutes. I am a plumbing contractor. I called her on the phone and she was really nasty. So, I fixed her water heater on Monday and gave her a Notice To Terminate Tenancy the same day. I had her apartment rented before she moved out and I am getting $250 more per month. That is $2800 per year and in 10 years is $28,000. 

    on what basis were you able to terminate the lease?

  • Investor · Gardena, CA · Member since 2017 · 445 posts · 398 votes
    7y

    I did not say I terminate the lease. That is something you need to check into. I said that I am not positive about whether or not you can put an inclusion in the lease after the lease is signed. But, if you do already have an inclusion about trash then the tenant is violating the lease and you can 'attempt' to terminate the lease, but no court would probably give a judgement in your favor.

    I would not do a lot of thinking about your situation. Knock on their door, tell them about your concern, send every tenant a letter and they will probably comply. I do have a clause in my lease agreements about trash and I said I will evict a tenant for not complying. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Upstate, NY · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    we're on a M2M only & we did evict a hoarder creating a corridor fire safety hazard with trash. She even had horse saddles resting on the upper railings. 

    Then a new tenant started putting LOADED kitty litter out by the trash cans but NOT IN IT ??? so they got the '30 day or else' & they shaped up fast. We have also insisted on double bagging trash because of maggots in the summer. This multi has 6 large trash bins that my live-in maint guy is not happy about chlorinating & hosing out every week. 

    You leave trash around you will get rodents/roaches & then they want you to hire an exterminator on your dime. I remember one of my friends multi's got inundated with roaches & it took a VERY LONG time to eradicate them.

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